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Re: looking 4 rosa "rosie" bell Meadows (?) Black
Posted by: Bob (ID *****0272) Date: April 13, 2012 at 15:09:37
In Reply to: looking 4 rosa "rosie" bell Meadows (?) Black by SHeena lincolnogger of 19729

Hi SHeena,

Rosa appears to be the daughter of Andrew Jackson Erwin and Martha Frances Carpenter.
Andrew must have died between 1880-1886, Martha re-married to James Jackson Meadows in 1886.

Remember, the infomation on a death record is only as accurate as the informants knowledge/remembers or was told.
Alexander died before Rosa, he would have been the one with the most knowledge about Rosa and her family.


West Virginia Deaths, 1853-1970
Name: Rosa Bell Black
Death Date: 27 Jun 1950
Death Place: Milton, Mason, West Virginia
Gender: Female
Age: 69 years 10 months 12 days
Estimated Birth Year: 16 Aug 1880
Birth Place: W.Va.
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Jackson Meadows
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Martha
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation: Housewife
Street Address:
Residence:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 30 Jun 1950
Informant: Clelvin Black

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West Virginia Deaths, 1853-1970
Name: Alexander Black
Death Date: 29 Jun 1946
Death Place: Milton, Cabell, West Virginia
Gender: Male
Age: 75 years 4 months 5 days
Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Birth Place:
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Rosa Bell
Father's Name: Sanford Black
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Joan Connard
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation: Farmer
Street Address:
Residence:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date:
Informant: Mrs Rosa Black

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=1983809&ImageNumber=674

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This is Lillie's brother


West Virginia Deaths, 1853-1970
Name: Elwood Wilson Black
Death Date: 19 Apr 1957
Death Place: Huntington, Cabell, West Virginia
Gender: Male
Age: 51 years 5 months 11 days
Estimated Birth Year: 1906
Date of Birth: 30 Nov 1905
Birth Place: Mason Co., West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Alex Black <<<
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Rose Erwin <<<<<
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation: Process Worker
Street Address:
Residence:
Cemetery: Bias Chapel Cemetery
Burial Place: Milton, West Virginia
Burial Date: 21 Apr 1957
Informant: Dora M. Black (Milton, West Virginia)

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=2074133&ImageNumber=1801


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1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Rosy B Black
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Home in 1930: Hannan, Mason, West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Elick S Black - (Alex)
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia

Household Members:
Elick S Black 58, Head, WVA
Rosy B Black 48, Wife, WVA
Elria Black 16, Daughter, WVA
Anderson Black 13, Son, WVA

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West Virginia Marriages, 1853-1970
Groom: Harry Gilbert Setliff
Groom's Age: 21
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1903
Groom's Birthplace: West Virginia
Groom's Residence: Putnam, West Virginia
Bride: Lillie Black
Bride's Age: 16
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1908
Bride's Birthplace: Mason, West Virginia
Bride's Residence: Mason, West Virginia
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Sep 1924
Marriage Place: Mason, West Virginia, United States

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=567398&ImageNumber=599

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1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Rosa Black
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1920: Hannan, Mason, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Elick Black - (Alex)
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members:
Elick Black 48, Head, WVA
Rosa Black 39, Wife, WVA
Narda Black 22, Son, WVA
Clevlen Black 16, Son, WVA
Elwood Black 13, Son, WVA (Elwood Wilson Black)
Laillie Black 12, Daughter, WVA (Lillie Frances Black)
Sarah F Black 8, Daughter, WVA
Alva Black 6, Daughter, WVA
Henderson Black 3, Son, WVA
Harden S Black 57, Father, WVA

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Name: Martha F Meadows
Age: 80
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1920: Hannan, Mason, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No

Household Members:
John W Holley 55, Head, WVA
Nancy J Holley 56, Wife, WVA
Martha F Meadows 80, Mother-in-Law, WVA

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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: R B Black - (Rosa Bell Black)
Age in 1910: 30
Birth Year: 1880
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1910: Harman, Mason, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married - (16 yrs) <<<<<<
Spouse's Name: Elsander Black - (Alexander)
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia

Household Members:
Elsander Black 40, Head, WVA
R B Black 30, Wife, WVA (mother of 4 children, 4 living)
Nordy Black 12, Son, WVA
Alven Black 7, Son, WVA
Elwood Black 5, Son, WVA
Lillie Black 1 6/12, Daughter, WVA

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1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha F Meadows
Age in 1910: 69
Birth Year: 1841
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1910: Union, Cabell, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married - (22yrs)
Spouse's Name: Jack J Meadows
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia

Household Members
Jack J Meadows 75, Head, WVA (2nd marriage)
Martha F Meadows 69, Wife, WVA (2nd marriage) - (mother of 8 children, 8 living)

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1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha F Meadows
Age: 42 [62] ???
Birth Date: Oct 1851 ??? (1841?)
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1900: Hannan, Mason, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jackson Meadows
Marriage Year: 1886
Years Married: 14
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 8

Household Members:
Jackson Meadows 66, Head, WVA
Martha F Meadows 42, Wife, WVA

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West Virginia Marriages, 1853-1970
Groom: Alexandar Black
Groom's Age: 24
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Groom's Birthplace: Mason Co., West Virginia
Groom's Residence: Mason Co., West Virginia
Bride: Rosie Iroin [Rosie Irwin](Erwin)
Bride's Age: 16
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1879
Bride's Birthplace: Mason Co., West Virginia
Bride's Residence: Mason Co., West Virginia
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 Mar 1895
Marriage Place: Mason, West Virginia, United States

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=567393&ImageNumber=168

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West Virginia Marriages, 1853-1970
Groom: Jas. J. Meadows
Groom's Age: 50 years
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1836
Groom's Birthplace: Mason Co.
Bride: Martha F. Erwin
Bride's Age: 45 years
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Bride's Birthplace: Mason Co.
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Nov 1886
Marriage Place: Cabell, West Virginia

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=559887&ImageNumber=227

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1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha F. Irwing [Martha F Irwin / Erwin]
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1880: Hannan, Mason, West Virginia (3 Jun 1880)
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Adren Irwing [Andrew]
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Occupation: Keeping House

Household Members:
Adren Irwing 55, Head , WVA
Martha F. Irwing 38, WVA
Nancy J. Irwing 17, Daughter, WVA
John H. J. Irwing 15, Son, WVA
Virginia F. Irwing 9, Daughter, WVA
Jessie T. Irwing 8, Son, WVA
Sarah M. Irwing 6, Daughter, WVA
Charles A. Irwing 4, Son, WVA
Rosa B. Irwing 1m, Daughter, WVA (10m, Aug 1879)

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1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Amanda Irvin [Irwin] - aka: Martha
Age in 1870: 27
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1870: Grant, Cabell, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Thorndike

Household Members:
Amanda Irvin 27, WVA
Nancy J Irvin 7, WVA
John H Irvin 5, WVA
Virginia Irvin 3, WVA

Living next door

Name: John Carpenter
Age in 1870: 68
Birth Year: abt 1802
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1870: Grant, Cabell, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Thorndike

Household Members:
John Carpenter 68, WVA
Frances Carpenter 51, WVA
Fannie Carpenter 14, WVA
Mahaley Carpenter 11, WVA
Matilda S Carpenter 8, WVA

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West Virginia Marriages, 1853-1970
Groom: Andrew Jackson Erwin
Groom's Age: 27
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1835
Groom's Birthplace: Mason Co., Virginia
Groom's Residence: Mason Co., Virginia
Bride: Martha Frances Carpenter
Bride's Age: 21
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Bride's Birthplace: Cabell Co., Virginia
Bride's Residence: Mason Co., Virginia
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 May 1862
Marriage Place: Mason, West Virginia, United States (Mason, Co., Virginia)
Groom's Father: Thomas Erwin
Groom's Mother: Susannah
Bride's Father: John Carpenter
Bride's Mother: Frances

http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view2.aspx?FilmNumber=567389&ImageNumber=162

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1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha F Carpenter
Age in 1860: 18
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1860: District 2, Mason, Virginia
Gender: Female
Post Office: Upland

Household Members:
John Carpenter 48, VA
Fannie Carpenter 40, VA
Martha F Carpenter 18, VA
Rebecca Carpenter 18, VA
M Brown Carpenter 13, VA
Jessy Carpenter 11, VA
Fannie Carpenter 3, VA
Mahola Carpenter 2, VA

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1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Martha F Carpenter
Age: 9
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: District 38, Mason, Virginia
Gender: Female

Household Members:
John Carpenter 47, VA
Frances Carpenter 31, VA
Perry Carpenter 16, VA
Mary Carpenter 12, VA
Martha F Carpenter 9, VA
Rebecca Carpenter 7, VA
Mike Carpenter 3, VA
Jesse Carpenter 1, VA

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1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew J Erwin
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1833
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: District 46, Putnam, Virginia
Gender: Male

Household Members:
Thomas Erwin 62, VA
Susana Erwin 60, VA
Susana Erwin 25, VA
Sarah A Erwin 19, VA
Andrew J Erwin 17, VA
James Henderson 8, VA

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West Virginia, Marriages Index, 1785-1971
Name: Jno Carpenter
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Frances Smith
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1841
Marriage Place: Cabell County, West Virginia (Virginia)



Hope this helps.
Bob


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