Re: possible descent from robert caen son of henry the first of england
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possible descent from robert caen son of henry the first of england
angela roberts 2/12/10
Angela You wrote:
“at genealogy.emeraldmound.com i found possible evidence that aaron windham (born 7/20/1817) was a direct descendant of robert caen, who was an illigitimate son of king henry the first of england, through margaret clifton (1411-1456) who was the wife of aaron's greatx11 grandfather john wyndham. i would like to know whether anyone else has found a direct link between the windhams and henry the first and whether there would be any way of determining whether or not this information is accurate.”
Here is what I have on John Wyndham and Margery Clifton.I believ this would have been during the time of King Henry VI, not King Henry first of Eng.
Henry I (c. 1068/1069 – 1 December 1135) was the fourth son of William I the Conqueror. He succeeded his elder brother William II as King of England in 1100:
John Wyndham----The son of John Wynmondham;It is with this generation that the Wymondham name was changed to Wyndham.He died in 1475 after an eventful and checkered political career which raised the Wyndham family to prominence in England.He is first heard from in 1439, when he was elected by the free holders of Norfolk to be one of their representatives in Parliament ( The Wyndhams of Norfolk and Somerset - Wyndham - Oxford Press - 1939 - Page 2).
In 1459 he was returned to Parliament for a second time and was one of those knights for Norfolk in the Parliament held at Coventry ( 1459 - 60), wherein the Earl of Warwickk and other accomplices of the Duke of York were attainted of high treason.At this time, John was an ardent supporter of the House of Lancaster (Ibid - Page 21).
In 1467, he was returned to Parliament as a member for Ipswich (Ibid - Page 21).
John was married first, in 1440, to Margery Clifton, widow of Sir Edward Hastings and daughter of Sir Robert Clifton, of Buckingham.She died in 1456 and was buried in the church of the Austin Friars.After her death, John married a second time in 1458, to Lady Heveningham, widow of Sir John Heveningham.
In 1450, he purchased the estate of Felbrigg from the trustees of Sir John Felbrigg, K. G. , and this property was to become the main seat of the Wyndham family in England.But John had much trouble keeping the property and his right to it was disputed by some of the former owner's heirs.In June,1461, one of them attacked the house in his absence and threatened his wife.The incident was related thus:"Sir John Felbrigg.....made a forcible entry in the absence of her husband, threatened to fire the house, she having locked herself up in her room to keep possession, and at last dragged her out by the hair of her head and took possession; but John Wyndham having the King's order to Thomas Montgomery, Esq., the sheriff of the county, to be put in possession, he came to an agreement andJohn Wyndham paying to Sir John Filbrigg200 marks , he released all ofhis right and claim to his lordship;and in the 39th Henry VI, Sir John Filbrigg and his wife conveyed it to John Wyndham be fine"(A Royal Descent - Thomasin Elizabet Sharpe - 1904 - Page 8; History of Norfolk - Blomefield - Vol. 8 - Page 112;The Wyndhams of Norfolk and Somerset - Wyndham - Oxford Press - 1939 - Page 20).
John died in Norwich and was buried in the Church of the Austin Friars ( History of Norfolk - Blomefield - Vol. 4 - Page 80; The Wyndhams of Norfolk and Somerset - Page 22).
The children of John and Margery, his first wife, were John, Roger, Ela and Isabel.Ela married in 1458 to Thomas Fastolf of Cowhawe, and Isabel married Sir Simon Wiseman of Great Thornham, Suffolk ( Baronagium Genealogicum - Segar and Edmundson - Vol. 3 - Page 273; Norfolk Visitations - Harleain Society - 1891- Pages 324 and 325).
William E. Windham
Phenix City, Alabama