Kathy, you wrote----
“The Wentworth wife of the early Felbrigg windhams-”--- Good point, I’m sorry.
First of all let me clear uo my take on this Nolen connection. When I referred to the “Windham / Nolen Connection” I am referring only to the two Nolen/Nolan Family Y-DNA participants identified as N-4 and N-30. ( I believe participant N-3 on the Nolan web site is Kit # 18393 from the Khaki Color Group)
And yes these two men are Nolens, simply because they were given the Nolen name. Just as I am a Windham because I was given the Windham name. Not because Joe Blow from England or Ireland or or Virginia, South Carolina, or what ever was named Windham.
Weather N-4 and N-30 mutated from a person with the name of Windham, I could care less. The information posted on their web site only appear to prove these two participants Nolen name back to 1800s.
As you well know I strongly feel the Windhams/Windoms who descend from the Khaki color group are just as much American Windhams as the descendants from the Green color group.
Kathy I agree, the Nolan Family Project appears to deal more with ancient, per-historic y-Results
The following which was copied and pasted from the Nolan Family y-Results web page appear to only substantiate that the N-4 and N-30 participants can only prove their Nolen name back to Hardin Nolen in the 1800s.
“N-3 matches N-4 in 23 of 25-markers with a genetic distance of two. This result is conclusive in determining a 99% probability of a common ancestor within a genealogical time period.
The paper trail (genealogical documentation) for N-3 and N-4 has also been conclusive in determining their most recent common ancestor (MRCA) Hardin Nolen of Lauderdale Co. Alabama who married Cynthia Vickers on 15 May 1845.
N-3 matches N-4 in 23 of 25-markers with a genetic distance of two. The paper trail (genealogical documentation) for N-3 and N-4 has also been conclusive in determining their most recent common ancestor (MRCA) Hardin Nolen of Lauderdale Co. Alabama who married Cynthia Vickers on 15 May 1845.
N-4 and N-30 are brothers of the same mother and father, but mutations at DYS #389-2 and 464c for N-4 with a genetic distance of two at the 25-marker level compared to N-30 leaves N-30 with a more precise genetic match with N-3 and 9ZZVM - Windham at the 25-marker level than with N-4.”
My intent of posting my last to messages was simply to point out the close association of Gov. William Boddie with the William “Wenham”, Edward Windham, and Edward Windham, “minor” in the 1600 era. And simply to get others to consider the possibility of a connection. I firmly believe more information can be obtained pertaining to this 1600 time period in Virginia.
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