Wow! I think we are finally getting this picture together!! Have you checked out the Wiese message board on Ancestry.com. Betty Greenwood has several pieces of info on our family and I have been corresponding with her also. I lacked the info about the wives of William Wiese, so this is a real breakthrough for me. It appears the wives were sisters, is that correct? I had William's middle initial as H. as opposed to your W. I don't know where at the moment my info came from. Betty refers to him as William II. Here is the census info she gave me:
1860 Census Clinton Co., IL
William Wiese, 52, farmer, real estate $2500; personal $600 b. Germany
Christine Wiese, 51, b. Germany
William Wiese II, 24, b. Germany
Christine Wiese 21, b. Germany
Christian Wiese, 17, b. Germany
Henry Wiese, 14, b. Germany
Caroline Wiese, 9, b. Germany
I also found the following info, but am lacking any 1870 census info. Do you have this???
1880 Census St. Louis, Missouri (Age at last birthday prior to June 1, 1880) Vol. 41, ED 375, Sheet 19, page 9 (Have printout) Listed in census twice.
Address: 2700 Chouteau Ave.
Christian (Christ) Wiese, 38, Baker, b. Prussia, Parents b. Prussia
Sophia, 29, (W,) Housekeeper, b. Prussia, Parents b. Prussia
Rudolph, 11, (NR), at school, b. IL
William (Willie) (S), 9, at school, b. IL
Louisa (Elisa) (D),6, (measles), b. MO
Christian (S), 2, b. MO
Albert (Charles)(S), 2 mo., b. MO
1892 C. Wiese listed as property owner in Breeze Twp., Clinton Co, IL
1900 Census Clinton Co, Illinois, Breeze Twp.
Christ Wiese, b. Sept. 1842, 49 yrs. in USA, married 32 years, b. Germany, arriv. U.S. 1851
Sophia, b. Sept. 1851, Had 11 children, 6 living, b. Germany, arriv. U.S. 1864
Christian, b. Mar. 1879, b. MO
Charles, b. Apr. 1880, b. MO
Herbert, b. Feb. 1883, b. IL
Rona, b. Sep 1887, b. IL
1910 Census MO
Sophia Wiese, 58, b. Germany
Carl, 30, b. MO
Herbert, 27, b. IL
Here is what I've put together so far. Let me know what you have to add or correct too. I can give you more info on more recent generations in a direct e-mail. I just want to get this on the Genforum for others to connect to.
Descendants of William Wiese
Generation No. 1
1. WILLIAM1 WIESE was born Abt. 1808 in Preuss-Strohen, Germany (NE of Minden), and died July 25, 1861. He married CHRISTINE. She was born Abt. 1809, and died Abt. July 08, 1869 in Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
Children of WILLIAM WIESE and CHRISTINE are:
2. i. WILLIAM H.2 WIESE, b. February 18, 1837, Preuss-Strohen, Germany (NE of Minden); d. December 28, 1924, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
3. ii. CHRISTINE WIESE, b. February 1840.
4. iii. CHRISTIAN "CHRIST" WIESE, b. September 1842, Prussia, Germany; d. Unknown, MO.
iv. HENRY WIESE, b. Abt. 1846.
v. CAROLINE WIESE, b. Abt. 1851.
Generation No. 2
2. WILLIAM H.2 WIESE (WILLIAM1) was born February 18, 1837 in Preuss-Strohen, Germany (NE of Minden), and died December 28, 1924 in Breese, Clinton Co., IL. He married (1) HENRIETTA STOCKLASS. She was born August 27, 1847, and died March 28, 1896. He married (2) WILHELMINA STOCKLASS.
Children of WILLIAM WIESE and HENRIETTA STOCKLASS are:
i. WILLIAM CONRAD3 WIESE, b. May 27, 1873, IL; d. February 19, 1921, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. MAMMIE HOFFMANN, November 17, 1907.
ii. CAROLINE LOUISA WIESE, b. March 07, 1876, IL; d. November 01, 1953, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. JOHN ARNOLD; b. November 13, 1874; d. March 14, 1926, Breese, Clinton Co., IL..
iii. AMIL/J. EMIEL WIESE, b. December 1884, IL; d. June 03, 1904, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
iv. FREDERICK WIESE, b. June 1887, IL; m. LOUISA STEFFENS.
v. HARRY WIESE, b. June 1890, IL.
vi. CHARLES W. WIESE, b. February 01, 1882, IL; d. May 16, 1966, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. MATHILDA STEFFENS; b. August 29, 1887; d. October 01, 1965, Breese, Clinton Co., IL..
3. CHRISTINE2 WIESE (WILLIAM1) was born February 1840. She married CONRAD SCHROEDER July 10, 1860 in Breese, Clinton Co., IL. He was born July 1835.
Children of CHRISTINE WIESE and CONRAD SCHROEDER are:
i. JOHANN CONRAD WILHELM3 SCHROEDER, b. October 01, 1861, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
ii. ANA CHRISTINE "CAROLINE" SCHROEDER, b. October 01, 1863; d. April 30, 1948.
iii. KONRAD CHRISTIAN WILHELM SCHROEDER, b. June 09, 1866.
iv. HENRY WILLIAM SCHROEDER, b. 1868, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. LILLIE E. HOFSOMMER, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; b. January 10, 1883; d. January 30, 1960, Breese, Clinton Co., IL..
v. LOUISE HENRIETTA SCHROEDER, b. July 22, 1872, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; d. April 14, 1961, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. EMIL GEORGE HOFSOMMER, September 24, 1894, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; b. April 11, 1868, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; d. December 29, 1943, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
vi. MARIA SOPHIA SCHROEDER, b. June 13, 1875, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; d. August 12, 1878, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
vii. LYDIA WILHELMINA SCHROEDER, b. December 17, 1877, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; d. July 16, 1966, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; m. AUGUST JACOB HOFSOMMER, October 30, 1901, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; b. August 17, 1873, Breese, Clinton Co., IL; d. March 26, 1966, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
viii. EMIL J. SCHROEDER, b. Abt. 1878, Breese, Clinton Co., IL.
4. CHRISTIAN "CHRIST"2 WIESE (WILLIAM1) was born September 1842 in Prussia, Germany, and died Unknown in MO. He married WILHEMINE "SOPHIA" MARIE LEWEDAG March 06, 1875 in Saint Louis, St. Louis Co., Missouri, daughter of ERNST LEWEDAG and SOPHIA HOECKER. She was born September 17, 1851 in Herford, Germany, and died 1936 in Missouri, U.S.A..
Children of CHRISTIAN WIESE and WILHEMINE LEWEDAG are:
i. RUDOLPH3 WIESE, b. 1869, IL; d. Unknown, Uknown.
ii. WILLIAM "WILLIE" WIESE, b. 1871, IL; d. Unknown, Uknown.
iii. LOUISA "ELISE" WIESE, b. 1874, St. Louis, MO, U.S.A.; d. Unknown.
iv. CHRISTIAN "CHRIS" WIESE, b. March 1879, St. Louis City , MO; d. Unknown.
v. ALBERT CHARLES "CARL" WIESE, b. April 03, 1880, St. Louis, MO; d. October 1963, MO.
vi. HERBERT "HERB" CHRIS WIESE, b. February 05, 1883, Breeze, Clinton Co., IL; d. November 07, 1950, Bourbon, Crawford Co., MO; m. ROSE ELLA SCHMIDT, June 10, 1912, St. Louis, St. Louis Co., MO; b. December 01, 1892, Pendleton, Warren Co., MO; d. August 19, 1945, Torrance, Los Angeles Co., CA.
vii. VERONA "RHONA" WIESE, b. September 23, 1887, Frogtown, IL; d. May 25, 1990, Steelville, Crawford Co., MO; m. CHARLES CHAPMAN, 1909, St. Louis, St. Louis Co., Missouri.
viii. ? CAROLINE WIESE, b. September 23, 1887, Frogtown, IL.
Notice in the 1880 census that Rudolph is listed as NR in the relationship column to Christian and Sophia. Also, Christian and Sophia did not m. until 1875 (I have the St. Louis recording of the marriage) and their first three children were b. before 1875. Don't know how to resolve this. Any ideas?
Have you seen the USGenweb Clinon Co, IL site? It has the cemetery's tombstone recordings listed for Breese. Excellent site!! Bye the way, looks like we have just found several new cousins!
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