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Unfortunately the information concerning
JOHN WHITE who married ANN WELBORN in this
post is not correct.
John White did not descend from the White
family listed in this posting.
If you are from this line I can send you
the correct information, along with proofs.
My own line is as follows:
John White m. Ann Welborn
Welborn Crabtree White m. Sarah Rebecca
Gibson
Mary Alvenia White m. Thomas Timmons Moore
- my gr grandparents.
The correct line is as follows:
ULRICH WEISS/WOOLRICK WHITE immigrated
to America from Germany in 1743 along
with his father-in-law Friedrich Hertzog
and his future brother in law Plickard
D. Seiler/Siler.
Ulrich married CATHARINA HERTZOG, dau
of Friedrich, c. 1743.
their first son JOHANN WEISS/JOHN WHITE SR.
was born in 1744 in Pennsylvania, probably
in Montgomery Co. where his grandfather
Friedrich owned a grist mill.
These families moved into Virginia and
then into Orange Co., NC.
Friedrich Hertzog sold his grist mill in
Pennsylvania and moved to Augusta Co., VA
by 1753/4 and then on to the Rocky River
area of Orange Co., NC (now Chatham Co.
north of Siler City).
The first mention of this White family
appears in the Orange Co. records when
Woolrick White and his son John White\
are chain-bearers on a survey for Zacariah
Martin, their neighbors along Rocky River.
Plickard Seiler/Siler has married Elisabeth
Hertzog, dau of Friedrich and also moves
to the Rocky River location. Friedrich
Hertzog gave land to his two eldest grand-
sons Philip Hertzog and John White in an
Orange Co. deed "for love and affection."
(In John White Jr.'s will in Pike Co., AL
in 1854 he mentions his "friend and kins-
man, John Siler, thus proving the White/
Siler connection).
Ulrich Weiss/White and his wife Catharina
had at least two other sons: Philip White
and Jacob White who lived in Chatham Co.,
NC in the latter part of the 1700s in the
same area where the Hertzogs and Silers
lived.
In 1884 John White, his wife Jane (Crabtree)_Philip Siler, his wife Mary (Crabtree) and
their uncle Philip Hertzog/Hartsoe sold land
in Chatham Co., which was left to thems by
Friedrich Hertzog.
The Sandy Creek area in present Randolph Co., NC is near the headwaters of Rocky River
not very far from the community in Chatham
Co., where the Weiss/Whites lived.
John White moved to Randolph County perhaps
because of his married to Jane Crabtree,
daughter of John Crabtree. He soon purchased
land (in 1776) from Semore York.
After his wife Jane died he married (2)
Rebecca Dorsett of Chatham County. The
Dorsett family lived near the Whites along
Rocky River from an early time.
In 1810 he, his son in law Jabez York, and
his son Josiah White were living in Moore
Co., NC.
They left NC and moved to the West Bend
area in Clarke Co., Mississippi Territory
by1813 or so. Jabez York served in the
Mississippi Militia that year. I am of the
opinion that Jabez and his wife Elizabeth
White likely moved to Clarke County first
and then two or three years later John
Weiss/White, his father in law and Josiah
White also moved.
There is a little paper about JOHANN WEISS/
WHITE, written by a descendant many years
ago when memories were still fresh which
tells a bit more.
THE OTHER WHITES OF CLARKE COUNTY -
Including John, Joab, David, Robert, etc.
all came from Barnwell District, SC if
the Georgia passports are correct. And they
came a bit earlier than did the Weiss/Whites.
Furthermore they did not settle at West Bend.
It is easy to see how the two families are
mistakenly linked by researchers wince they
came to MS Territory at about the same time
and settled in the same county.
I have a paper which gives all of this and
other information more completely, including
sources, etc. I can send it to anyone as
an attachment. It is 27 or so pages long.
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