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Re: Eliza Whale, Abt. 1827-29 Dudley, Worcester, UK
Posted by: bud Jackson (ID *****0943) Date: April 05, 2002 at 16:06:36
In Reply to: Eliza Whale, Abt. 1827-29 Dudley, Worcester, UK by Tony Greaves of 244

I have an Ellen Whale who was baptised April 4th 1830 in Dudley. At the same time her sister Eliza was also baptised. Their parents were William Whale and Elizabeth Stringer. Ellen married Isaiah Jackson at Tipton aug 1845.I am descended from that marriage. The problem is to determine whether your Eliza and mine are the same. If so I have reams of stuff I can share. on the other hand there were a zillion Whales/Wheales in the Black Country in those days
What do tou know about the parentage of your Eliza?
Descendants of William Whale..for 4 generations.."b" means" born or baptized"
                                                        
       1        William Whale       b: Abt. 1803 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: Aft. 1881                     
..              +Elizabeth Stringer       b: April 09, 1809 in Dudley,Worcester,England       m: February 21, 1826 in Tipton,Staffordshire,England       d: Aft. 1881              Father: Daniel Stringer       Mother: Sophia Cope
.......       2        Eliza Whale       b: April 04, 1830 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        Ellen Whale       b: April 04, 1830 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
...........              +Isaiah Jackson       b: April 23, 1826 in Dudley,Worcester,England       m: August 18, 1845 in Parish Church,Tipton,Staffordshire                     Father: Edward Jackson       Mother: Phebe Reeves
................       3        Abraham Two Jackson       b: February 02, 1851 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
....................              +Mary       b: Abt. 1849 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Isaiah Jackson       b: March 06, 1870 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Charlotte Jackson       b: Abt. 1873 in dudley                                   
..........................       4        Thomas Jackson       b: Abt. 1878 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Ellen Jackson       b: 1882                                   
..........................       4        Janey Jackson       b: 1884                                   
..........................       4        Clara Jackson       b: 1889                                   
................       3        Mary Ann Jackson       b: September 15, 1853 in Porters Field, Dudley,Worcester,England              d: 1936 in Dudley,Worcester,England                     
....................              +Edward Owen       b: December 14, 1856 in Pontipreed,Wales       m: February 28, 1876 in Rowley Regis,England       d: in Dudley,Worcester,England              Father: Edward Owen       Mother: Elizabeth Rowlands
..........................       4        Alfred Owen       b: in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Thomas Owen       b: in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Edward Owen       b: 1876 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: 1880                     
..........................       4        Ellen Owen       b: 1877 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Bertha Owen       b: 1878 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Joseph Whitehouse       b: Abt. 1859 in Netherton,Worcester,England              d: March 02, 1941              Father: Joseph Whitehouse       Mother: Blanche
..........................       4        Ruth Owen       b: 1881 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: 1935                     
..............................              +[1] Frederick Allen              m: May 09, 1904 in Dudley Worcester,England       d: 1960              Father: John James Allen       
..........................       4        Miriam Owen       b: 1884 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Job Owen       b: 1885 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Mary Owen       b: 1887 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: July 28, 1928 in London, Ontario ,Canada                     
..............................              +Charles Edward Jackson       b: February 07, 1887 in Dudley,Worcester,England       m: August 24, 1912 in London,Ontario,Canada       d: December 07, 1964 in London Ontario ,Canada              Father: John Jackson       Mother: Marian Smith
..........................       4        Isaiah Owen       b: 1888 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Jessie                                          
..........................       4        Edward Owen       b: 1889 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Jane Owen       b: Abt. 1892 in London , Ontario ,Canada              d: February 07, 1991 in London , Ontario ,Canada                     
..............................              +Henry Walter Clark       b: Abt. 1888 in England              d: June 28, 1962 in London buried Woodland                     
..........................       4        Abel Owen       b: August 01, 1894 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: January 1969                     
..............................              +Jean Mclean Richmond       b: November 19, 1898       m: November 09, 1928 in London,Ontario,Canada       d: October 06, 1936 in London , Ontario ,Canada                     
................       3        Thomas Jackson       b: March 23, 1856 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
....................              +Margaret                                          
..........................       4        Ellen Jackson       b: 1883                                   
..........................       4        Mary Jackson       b: 1888                                   
..........................       4        Female Jackson       b: 1891                                   
................       3        Solomon Jackson       b: August 08, 1858 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
....................              +Mary Emma Wood       b: Abt. 1856 in Dudley,Worcester,England       m: May 22, 1876 in Dudley, Worcester, England                            
..........................       4        Thomas Jackson       b: 1880 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Isaiah Jackson       b: November 26, 1893 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        William Jackson       b: October 28, 1860 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        William James Jackson       b: Abt. 1878 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Clara Stinton       b: Abt. 1874       m: August 13, 1899 in Dudley Worcester,England                     Father: Thomas Stinton       
..........................       4        Thomas Jackson       b: Abt. 1877 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Sarah Ann Turner              m: October 08, 1899 in Dudley Worcester,England                            
................       3        Ellen Jackson       b: March 31, 1862 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
....................              +Thomas One Owen       b: 1858 in Dudley,Worcester,England                            Father: Edward Owen       Mother: Elizabeth Rowlands
..........................       4        Alfred Owen       b: Abt. 1881 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Sarah                                          
..........................       4        Thomas Owen       b: Abt. 1882 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..............................              +Florence Newry                                          
..........................       4        Arthur Owen                                          
..............................              +Violet Tomes                                          
..........................       4        Edward Owen                                          
..............................              +May Unknown                                          
..........................       4        Howard William Owen                                          
..............................              +Gertrude Hadley                                          
..........................       4        Abel Owen                                          
..............................              +Betty Hughes                                          
..........................       4        Ellen Owen                                          
..............................              +Joe Davies                                          
..........................       4        Ethel Owen                                          
..............................              +Frederick Allen                                          
..........................       4        Florence Owen                                          
..............................              +Cyril Hewitt                                          
..........................       4        Edith Owen                                          
..............................              +[1] Frederick Allen                     d: 1960              Father: John James Allen       
..........................       4        Abraham Owen       b: December 29, 1895 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Isaiah Jackson       b: December 25, 1864 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: Bef. 1866                     
................       3        Isaiah Jackson       b: July 22, 1866 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
....................              +Clara                                          
..........................       4        Gertrude Grace Jackson       b: November 22, 1896                                   
..........................       4        Joseph Walter Jackson       b: December 17, 1893 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Francis Abraham Jackson       b: December 09, 1898 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
..........................       4        Charlotte Louisa Jackson       b: March 04, 1900 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: May 15, 1900 in Dudley,Worcester,England                     
................       3        Elizabeth Jackson       b: April 18, 1869 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        George Jackson       b: Abt. 1872 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Ellen Two Jackson       b: 1873 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Alfred Jackson       b: October 16, 1873 in Dudley,Worcester,England              d: February 29, 1940 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,England                     
....................              +Sarah Hampton       b: December 30, 1874 in Dudley,Worcester,England       m: October 22, 1893 in St James Church Dudley,Worcester,England       d: August 31, 1951              Father: Arthur Hampton       Mother: Elizabeth Raybould
..........................       4        [2] Gladys Jackson       b: July 06, 1917 in Ravenfield,Rotherham,Yorkshire,England              d: 1991                     
..............................              +Harold Amison              m: 1939 in Huddersfield,England                            
..........................              *2nd Husband of [2] Gladys Jackson:                                          
..............................              +Sidney Smith              m: 1953 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,ERngland                            
..........................       4        [3] George Jackson       b: 1915 in Ravenfield,Rotherham,Yorkshire,England                                   
..............................              +Theresa Willett                                          
..........................              *2nd Wife of [3] George Jackson:                                          
..............................              +Mildred                                          
..........................       4        Ruth Jackson       b: December 07, 1909 in Ravenfield,Rotherham Yorkshire,,England                                   
..............................              +Frank Swallow                                          
..........................       4        Ellen Jackson       b: February 12, 1908 in Ravenfield,Rotherham,Yorkshire,England              d: December 26, 1993 in Ravenfield,Rotherham Yorkshire,,England                     
..............................              +Cyril Macgretton                                          
..........................       4        Alfred Jackson       b: 1895 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,England              d: 1915 in Dardanelles                     
..........................       4        Edith Jackson       b: 1899 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,England              d: 1988 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,England                     
..............................              +Norman Jackson                                          
..........................       4        Bertha Jackson       b: 1896 in Rotherham,Yorkshire,England              d: 1927                     
..............................              +Norris France                                          
..........................       4        Lily Jackson       b: 1894              d: Abt. 1950                     
..............................              +Samuel Roberts                                          
.......       2        Ann Whale       b: May 22, 1831 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
...........              +John Johnson              m: July 02, 1849 in Old Swinford,Worcestershire,England                            
................       3        John Johnson       b: September 05, 1852 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Thomas Henry Johnson       b: March 18, 1855 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Edward Johnson       b: April 05, 1857 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Elizabeth Johnson       b: March 27, 1859 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Emma Johnson       b: December 16, 1860 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Sarah Louise Johnson       b: April 12, 1863 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
................       3        Mary Johnson       b: 1849 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        William Whale       b: May 19, 1833 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        Amelia Ann Wallace Whale       b: March 29, 1835 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        John Whale       b: July 19, 1835 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        Thomas Whale       b: December 24, 1837 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
...........              +Jane                                          
................       3        Lillian Whale       b: Abt. 1866 in Sheffield,Yorkshire,England                                   
................       3        Edith Whale       b: Abt. 1868 in Sheffield,Yorkshire,England                                   
................       3        Harry Whale       b: Abt. 1878 in Sheffield,Yorkshire,England                                   
................       3        Herbert G Whale       b: Abt. 1880                                   
.......       2        Sophia Whale       b: March 03, 1839 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        William Whale       b: August 23, 1840 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        Sarah Ann Whale       b: December 25, 1857 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   
.......       2        Emma Whale       b: March 04, 1860 in Dudley,Worcester,England                                   


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