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Re: Elizabeth Westfield m Robert Washington
Posted by: mary chawner (nee Westfield) (ID *****7972) Date: June 13, 2009 at 08:15:45
In Reply to: Elizabeth Westfield m Robert Washington by Sandy Tracy of 36

My theory - John Westfield of Overton Lancs circa 1418 occupation in 1440 was the Greave of Overton. He & wife Alice Groby had a daughter Elizabeth Westfield born circa 1444. This could be the Elizabeth married to Robert Washington in 1464. Snips from British History on Line. Please check out full version.
"In 1066 Earl Tostig held OVERTON, assessed as four plough-lands, as a member of his Halton lordship. Later it formed part of the demesne of the honour of Lancaster... For the year ending Michaelmas 1440 John Westfield, the greave of Overton, rendered a net sum of 18 17s. 7d. to the king's receiver, partly in money and partly in wheat at 6s. 8d. the quarter....The greave himself, in right of Alice his wife, daughter of Robert Groby, held a third part of the lands attached to the serjeanty, paying nothing; but he accounted for 26s. 8d. for the other two-thirds formerly held by..." end quotes. Following 3 definitions obtained other sources:
Meaning of "Greave".
1."The serfs in the English manors usually elected one of their number annually to oversee their work for the lord, 2. "This occupational name is from the Old Norse word greifi which originally meant 'steward' or 'person in charge of property'. This word became greyve in Middle England and it formed the names Grieve(s) and Reeve(s). The Old Danish and Old Swedish meaning of the word geigi was 'earl, count'. In a sense these titles were also occupational, as the bearers were vassals of the king."
3.He was the town official - literally a baliff. (from the word retrieve) Reave Act of taking seize or snatch.
Perhaps others can comment on John the greave and Wife Alice as possibly being the in-laws of Robert Washington married to their daughter Elizabeth Westfield in 1464. Mary.

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