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Re: Wallen Family--- ELISHA!!
Posted by: Joann Sovelenko (ID *****5102) Date: November 30, 2003 at 15:09:05
In Reply to: Re: Wallen Family--- ELISHA!! by Linda Sue Hollingsworth of 1121

In my GED file I have the following on JOHN WALLEN/WALLING son of Elisha Wallen/Walling:

He was born June 27, 1750 Lunenberg, Henry Co., VA and died April 22, 1836 in McMinn Co., TN.

Marriage #1: Mary Cox
Marriage #2: Elizabeth Nefsey Roberts
Marriage #3: Frances Hale

Alternate Death: April 18, 1836, McMinnville Co., TN

John Walling was a Private in Revolutionary War, Virginia Line. Received pension August 14, 1833.

1775/1776 Served with Captain Cox’s Company and Colonel Morton;s Virginia Regiment in Battle of Hanging Rock.

1772: Listed on Titables with Neal and William Roberts in Botebourt Co., VA.

1778 and 1782: In Montgomery Co., VA.

1777/1782: Appeared “on the undated list of Elk Creek District under Lts. John McKinney and William Walling.

1780: Son, Elisha supposed born in North Carolina.

1785: Wife scaped according to Summer 16 miles from Morton’s (Joseph Marrin’s) Station.

1789: Made home at Flat Lick or mouth of Stock Creek (Clinchport) on Kentucky path.

1803: Witness to deed of McCutchin and Goff.

1810: Purchased 60 acres form Thomas Goff and Polly on North fork of Clinch River in July and 60 more acres in August.

1811:: McKinney vs Preston statement that John had known this land since 1785 or 1760 depending on source.

In Revolutionary war enlisted in Wythe Co., VA at 21 (probably 27 years) years of age. Served under lt. Alexander Cox, Lt. Alexander Bryson and Col. William Campbell.

Lived for a short time in Jefferson Co., IL, from there to Casey Co., KY to McMinn Co., TN.
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A Letter written to Arthur Campbell, by John Anderson, states:

“blockhouse, May ye 17th, 1789

Dear Sir:

I wrote you a few days ago, wherein I informed you respecting Mr. Wallen’s being driven from home. Wallen lived at the mouth of Stock Creek.”

RM Addington on page 125 of his History of Scott County, quotes Thomas Carter’s letter found in the Draper manuscripts:

“Sometime in the year 1789, John Wallen build a small cabin at the mouth of Stock Creek where Clinchport is situated now. He located his cabin on the Kentucky Path, and no double, helped to entertain some of the hundreds of settlers who were emigrating to Kentucky at the time oveer the Wilderness Road. Wallen was not left long in the peacable enjoyment of his new home in the wilderness. Benge and his forest bloodhounds soon found his cabin. One morning, must at daybreak, his wife, opening the door was shot at by an Indian and slightly wounded. Quickly closing the door, she bared it to prevent its being forced. Wallen, who was yet in bed, then hastily across and snatching the gun from its rack, shot and killed the Indian nearest the door. The other Indians then rushed upon the house trying to effect an entrance, nor did they retreat until Wallen had killed three of them. After driving the Indians away, Wallen and his wife went to Carter’s Fort, eight miles distant.”

In a land suite in the High court of Chanchery in Augusta Co., VA in 1811, it was stated that John Wallen had known this country (the area around Flat Lock, now Duffield) since 1761. This statement is evidence that John Wallen was one of the Long Hunters, and 1761 is the year that historians say Elisha Wallen set up his first hunting camp in Powell Valley, and the above statement certainly indicates that this John Wallen was a son of the Long Hunter, Elisha Wallen.
August Court Causes Ended, McKinney vs Preston)

The order of marriage is not so readily determined. For instance, Frances Hale was only found in one instance and also Mary Roberts.
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1776 Revolutionary War Soldier / Virginia Line
Private Virginia A Line/ Revolutionary War
7th Gen evolutionary War Pension Application, Virginia
Elizabeth W. Application, Virginia
Occupation: Hunter/Farmer, Wythe Co., VA; Flat Lock Illinois, KY; McMinn, TN.
Resident of Wythe Co., VA. Enlisted as Private in Capt Cox Company Col. Joseph Marten's Regiment was on expedition against Cherokee Indians. Enlised as Private in Capt. John Brysons Eol. Wm. Campbell, VA.
Moved from Holston and Clinch Rivers near Flat Lick, living there for 40 years, then moved to Illinois, Kentucky, and McMinn Co., TN.
Killed by Indians as he plowed field.

Found on Wallen Family Genealogy Forum on Genealogy.com the following from Linda Sue Hollingsworth in reply to Re: Wallen-ELISHA: John Wallen was killed by Indians also but later on in Tennessee in an area above Hamilton County (Chattanooga) McMinn Co. TN. I have not found many records about the family in Hamilton County as of yet but there is a Wallens Mountain there. John was found almost completely decomposed by his sons. They where able to identify him only by the buttons on his shirt.

Here is futher information for thought from Bettylee Davis, whose email address is as follows: bldavis@bigriverruber.com
"I have seen a deposition abstract in Lee/Scott Co. with people deposing for John Wallen, an old man, in a land deep dispute. One of them is a Thomas Bishop who testified in 1811/1821 (sorry..not in front of me) that he married John's daughter. I have seen in different posts that she may have been Hannah Walling although I do not have a daughter of John named Hannah. John's first wife, Mary, was killed by Indians. We know two sons Elisha and William survived. Maybe a daughter did as well. Any descendants?"

Here is another email from Bettylee Davis in reply to one by Chris Bishop: "Chris, do you know anything about a Hannah born ca 1778-1884 who may have been a daughter of John Wallen, and who married a Thomas Bishop of Scott? They had one son that I know of who was a "Samson." There was a lawsuit where Thomas Bishop says he married a daughter of John's. Perhaps there was a Hannah who survived the Indian attack which killed her mother. Boys Elisha and William are known survivors."

More Info from Bettylee:
"Access Chalkley's Chronicles on the web and search for Wallen, you should find a lawsuit "Mckenny vs.Preston" loose papers filed in Augusta Co., VA that were of Lee Co., VA. A number of these depositions give us genealogical data on the Wallens. This suit defends John Wallen among others. I have been unable to get a transcript of the miscellaneous notes due to the fact that they are currently being transcribed in Augusta County, and maybe in six months they can look for them. There is a deposition of a Thomas Bishop who says he "married Wallen's daughter." I think this deposition. was in Scott County. Please get the details from the site. There are several Bishop researchers who believe this man was married to a Hannah Wallen. If this was John's daughter, she was another survivor of the Indian massacre most likely...a daughter to Mary Roberts and John and a sister to known survivors Elisha and William. However, and I emphasize this, Mr. Bishop's reference could just as easily have been to another one of the Wallen men.

It is also to be gathered by one of these depositions that Thomas Wallen married Mary Cox, son of Elisha born 1708 and brother to this John, etc., died abt 1801. It will be most significant to get a copy of these particular depositions as it will prove a daughter who married a Thomas Bishop regardless of who her father might be.
Eleanor Edmondson transcribed many pages of this suit in 1984 but apparently these were unavailable to her, and I am just hoping they will be available when I next contact the courthouse in Augusta. Also, I hope you are subscribed to Walling-L mailing list as the archives are excellent and may help fill many gaps. Bettylee
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John Wallen's Wife Killed in Powell Valley. By Emory Hamilton
Note: "Col Arthur Campbell wrote to Governor Patrick Henry on March 26, 1785: ‘Since the murder of Mrs. Walling (Wallen), which I mentioned in my last letter, a Mrs. Cox was shot at by the Indians, but happily escaped’.

On the same day Colonel Joseph Martin, who had built Martin's Station in Powell Valley also wrote Governor Henry, from his home in Henry County, Virginia, stating: 'I have enclosed a letter from Ellis Harlin, who is ust from Chickamauga. On the 17th instant a part of Indians came to the house of John Wallen (Footnote: John Wallen ws born July 21, 1750 and died in McMinn Co., TN on April 18, 1836. He married secondly Elizabeth Roberts on February 18, 1786 at Jonesboro, TN. His first wife, who was killed, was probably a Cox and was killed at Spring Creek on March 17, 1785), killed and scalped his wife, about 15 miles from my Station, and I further expect every hour to hear the people there are all murdered.'
Note: No details of just how Mrs. Wallen was killed have been found. Martin says she was killed about 15 miles from his station, which would have to be up Powell Valley, thus placing their residence somewhere in the vicinity of the present Rose HIll Community. This John Wallen was a son of Elisha Wallen, the Long Hunter, for whom Wallen's Ridge in Powell Valley was named [I think he was the youngest brother, not a son; see Wilder referrence and Elisha Wallen, the Longhunter text]. Elisha established a Long Hunters Camp in Powell Valley around 1761, and lived in the Valley for many years, and according to a statement of Captain William Martin, son of Colonel Joseph, old Elisha was still living in the valley in 1785, sometimes soon thereafter leaving for Missouri where he died.

Note: Dr. Robert L Kincaid, in his Wilderness Road, page 313-4 states:
‘Dr. Harbison, early Powell Valley physicain, of New Tazewell, TN was a son-in-law of Captain Daniel Huff who had been fatally injured in 1861 when he was trhown from a buggy while riding down the Gap road after dinner with the Confedderates at the Pass. His wife's grandfather, John Walden (Wallen), one of the early pioneers in Powell Valley and believed to be a son of the Long Hunter, Elisha Walden.'

Research has failed to determine which Mrs. Cox was shot at by the Indians, there being several families of this name living in Powell Valley at this time. In the letter aforementioned from Colonel Martin to Governor Patrick Henry, he further states: 'The Indians have attempted to take satisfaction at the house of one Cox, near the end of Clinch Mountain, where an attack was made the 10th Instant. The damage done there was one horse killed"
Sources:
1. Name: Hamilton, Mullins, Weaver. (1992). Unsettled settlements: Indian Forays on the Holston and Clinch Rivers 1773-1794. Clintwood, VA: Mullins Printing
2. Name: Wallen, Delmar H. Sr. (1993). Families and History of Sullivan County, Tenn, Vol I, 1779-1992. Complied by Holston Territory Genealogical Society.
3. Name: Wilder, M.H. & H. B. (1991). A Wallen/Walling Genealogy, vol II Baltimore: Gateway Press, Inc

Mary Cox/Coxe was born bef 1761 and died March 17, 1785 at KBI Spring Creek, Rose Hill, Martin’s Station
Age 24 at time of death.
Are Elizabeth Nefsey Roberts and Mary Roberts are sisters? Was Mary Roberts really Mary Cox?
And they is some speculation that Mary Roberts was John Walling's 1st wife whose last name was not known.

See info other John Walling provided by @bigriverruber.com
Scalped by Indians during a raid at Marten's Station, TN. According to page found on Family Tree Maker’s Genealogy Site of Descendants of Ralph Wallen, she was murdered by Indians in McMinn, TN

Name may have been Francy Lucy, Hale McKinney, Cox Roberts.
“Colonel Arthur Campbell wrote to Governor Patrick Henry on March 26, 1785: “since the muder of Mrs. Wallen/Wallen, which I mentioned in my laster letter, a Mrs. Cox was shot at the Indians, but hapilly escaped.

On the same day Col. Joseph Martin, who had built Martin’s Station in Powell Valley also wrote Governor Henry, from his home in Henry Co., VA, stating : “i have enclosed a letter from Ellis Harlin, who is from Chickamauga. On the 17th instant a party of Indians came to the house of John Wallen. John Wallen was born August 21, 1750 and died in mcMinn Co., TN on April 18, 1836.

He married secondly Elizabeth Roberts on February 18, 1786 at Jonesboro, TN. His first wife, who was killed, was probably a Cox and was killed at Spring Creek on March 17, 1785, killed and scalped his wife, about 15 miles from my Station, and I further expect every hour to hear the people there are all murdered.

No details of just how Mrs. Wallen was killed have been found. martin says she was killed about 15 miles from his station, which would have to be up Powell Valley, thus placing their residence somewhere in the vicinty of the present Rose Hill Community. This John Wallen was a son of Elisha Wallen, the Long Hunte,r for whom Wallen’s Ridge in Powell Valley was named. (I think he was the youngest brother, not a son, see Wilder ref. and Elisha Wallen, the Longhunter test). Elisha established a Long Hunters Camp in Powell Valley around 1761, and lived in the Valley for many years, and acording to a statement of Capt. William martin, son of Colonel Joseph, old Elisha was still living in the valley in 1785, sometimes soon thereafter leaving for Missouri where he died.

Dr. Robert L. Kincaid, in his Wilderness Road, pages 3130314 states:
“Cr. Harbison, early Powell Valley physician, of New Tazwell, TN was a son-in-law of Capt. Daniel huff who had been fatally injured in 1861 when he was thrown from a buggy while riding down the Bap road after dinner with the Confederates at the Pass. His wife’s grandfather, John Walden, one of the early pioneers in Powell Valley and believed to be a son of the Long Hunter, Elisha Walden.

Children of John Walling and Mary Cox (married about 1775 in Virginia) are: William Elisha and Lucy.

2nd wife of John Walling was Elizabeht Nefsey Roberts born 1767/1768 in Virginia; died 1858 in McMinn Co., TN. They were married February 18, 1786 in Jonesboro, Washington Co., TN. Names of parents are not known.
Are Elizabeth Nefsey Roberts and Mary Roberts are sisters? Since John’s 1st wife was scapled and killed by Indians in 1785, he apparently married Elizabeth Nefsey Roberts shortly thereafter in 1786.
Children of John Walling and Elizabeht Nefsey Roberts are: John M., James, Jesse, Sarah Nancy, Thomas Grandison, Sarah, Isaac, Stephen, Elizabeth and Rhoda.

3rd wife is thought to be Frances Hale. No further information about her is known.





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