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Re: seeking birth record in Wales 1856
Posted by: Alex Dow (ID *****6925) Date: January 01, 2014 at 23:16:35
In Reply to: seeking birth record in Wales 1856 by peggy kimbell of 19128

Morning Peggy

Following up on John's suggestion, it seems likely to be the correct Birth Record, as there is this Marriage Record-

www.findmypast.co.uk

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close MarriageFinder: John Scanlon married Margaret Stack
Name: SCANLON, John
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1853
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 524

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Name: STACK, Margaret
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1853
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 524

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The copy of the original Marriage Record will normally have the names of the respective fathers.

Ignore the two lines-
"
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
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as this refers to the original printed Search Indexes rather than the actual Marriage Record.

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In the 1861 Census on FMP, there is this Scanlon family in Cardiff; and given the ages, they may be relatives-

1861 census transcription details for: 32, William Street
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4035
Folio: 23
Page: 50
Reg. District: Cardiff
Sub District: 2 Cardiff
Parish:
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, William Street
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SCANLON, Denis Head Married M 26 1835 Labourer
Ireland
SCANLON, Mary Wife Married F 23 1838
Ireland
SCANLON, John Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
SCANLON, Frederic Son M 3 1858
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
SCANLON, Mary Daughter F 0 (6M) 1861
Cardiff, Glamorganshire


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And another(?) John Scanlon in Merthyr Tydfil-

1861 census transcription details for: 97, Victoria Street, Merthyr Tydfil
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4058
Folio: 54
Page: 20
Reg. District: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub District: 3 Upper Merthyr Tydfil
Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: Dowlais
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 97, Victoria Street, Merthyr Tydfil
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
OKEEFE, Andrew Head Married M 30 1831 Labourer
Ireland
OKEEFE, Ellen Wife Married F 30 1831
Ireland

SCANLON, John Boarder Unmarried M 25 1836 Labourer
Ireland

MULCAHY, Lawrence Boarder Unmarried M 25 1836 Labourer
Ireland
GEARY, Michael Boarder M 27 1834 Coach In Rail...
Ireland
RYAN, Bridget Boarder Widow F 40 1821 Dressmaker
Ireland


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STACK in Merthyr in 1861-

Household STACK, Bartholomew 1858 3 M Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, Catherine 1831 30 F Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, Catherine 1855 6 F Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, James 1826 35 M Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, John 1861 0 M Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, John 1819 42 M Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW
Household STACK, Mary 1844 17 F Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW


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Only one STACK in 1851, from Ireland-

Household STACK, Thomas 1821 30 M Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire VIEW VIEW

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I have not found them on the Castle Garden site, 1855 to 1862.

This preceded Ellis Island.

www.castlegarden.org

www.ellisislandreccords.org

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These results on the LDS Family Search site give further leads-

www.familysearch.org

Name       Events       Relationships       Preview
Honora Scanlon
England and Wales, Birth Index, 1800-1920
birth:       1855       Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Hanora Scanlin
United States Census, 1860
birth:       1855       S Wales
residence:       1860       , Peoria, Illinois
Annie H Scanlin
Wife
United States Census, 1920
birth:       1855       Wales
residence:       1920       Catasauqua Ward 4, Lehigh, Pennsylvania, United States
immigration:       1856       
spouse:       William H Scanlin
Thomas H Scanlan
Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index, 1840-1950
birth:              Canada or Great Britain
naturalization:       1888       Illinois
Scanlon
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1891
birth:       1855       G Britain
immigration:       1855       New York City, New York, United States

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This is almost certainly the Arrival of Honora and her mother in New York, her father seems to have travelled separately-

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-16940-53271-19?cc=1849782&wc=M94V-JVJ:540044501

Note the apparent namine swop.

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Also on FS, there seems to be potentially other entries of interest-

John Scanlan
Father
Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947
birth:              Ireland
spouse:       Margaret
child:       John Scanlan
John Scanlon
Inmate
United States Census, 1900
birth:       March 1829       Ireland
residence:       1900       Peoria Township, District 4 Peoria city Ward 6, Peoria, Illinois, United States
immigration:       1860       

and several more

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Margaret Scanlon
Head
United States Census, 1910
birth:       1833       Ireland
residence:       1910       Peoria Ward 7, Peoria, Illinois, United States
children:       Bartholomew Scanlon, Honora Scanlon
Margaret Scanlon
Head
United States Census, 1900
birth:       October 1831       Ireland
residence:       1900       Peoria Township, District 1 Peoria city Ward 7, Peoria, Illinois, United States
immigration:       1856       
children:       Hannah Scanlon, Barth J Scanlon

also several more

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I have also tried for her as Margaret Stack, with less certain results.

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This site may give you leads to earlier surces-

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/General-Register-Office.aspx

Alex Dow



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