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Re: EVANS / SAMUEL
Posted by: Alex Dow (ID *****6925) Date: September 02, 2013 at 11:38:49
In Reply to: EVANS / SAMUEL by louise selby of 19135

Evening Louise

I have been checking further in the 1851 Census.

There are only three Households in Heol Hen Llanelli,

John Rvans & Margaret being the first on the sequence
followed by
Wiiliam Saunders & Mary & family
followed by
William Evans & Margaret & family

Details of the latter from FMP are

1851 census transcription details for: Heol Hen, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2468
Folio: 110
Page: 18
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: Longhor
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 3B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Heol Hen, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, William Head Married M 50 1801 Mason
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Margaret Wife Married F 44 1807
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Smith
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, David Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Nailer
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Edward Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Mason
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Mary Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, George Son Unmarried M 6 1845 At Home
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire


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This may or may NO be the parents of John (Henry) Evans, given Margaret's age when Thomas was born.

There is "room" for John's Birth - BUT NO GUARANTEES!!

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Using Edward born 1837 as the target, this seems to be the same family in the 1841 Census - note the naming sequence-

1841 census transcription details for: Heolhen, Llanelly, Berwick
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1379
Book/Folio: 2/27
Page: 14
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: Longhor
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Heolhen, Llanelly, Berwick
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
EVAN, William M 40 1801 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, Margaret F 35 1806 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, William M 14 1827 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, John M 11 1830 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, Thomas M 8 1833 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, David M 6 1835 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, Edward M 3 1838 Carmarthenshire
EVAN, Mary F 0 (9 months) 1841 Carmarthenshire


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Again - NO GUARANTEES!!

However, it is the only Household living in Heol Hen Llanelli in 1841.

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This may be Edward b 1837 in the 1861 Census-

1861 census transcription details for: 1, Nevill Street, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4110
Folio: 105
Page: 13
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 1 Loughor
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Trinity
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Nevill Street, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, Edward Head Married M 25 1836 Hammer Man In Tin Plate Works
Swansea, Glamorganshire
EVANS, Jane Wife Married F 23 1838
Llangafelach
EVANS, John Son M 1 1860
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire


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There are several David b 1835 in the 1861 Census - BUT this is the only one to state that he was born in Llanelli-

1861 census transcription details for: Waungradog, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4112
Folio: 53
Page: 52
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 2 Llanelly
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Waungradog, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, David Head Married M 26 1835 Journeyman Boilerman
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Ann Wife Married F 23 1838
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, John Son M 3 1858 Scholar
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire


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No obvious results for Thomas b 1832

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Possible William b 1827

1861 census transcription details for: 5, Cwmfelyn Row, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4110
Folio: 76
Page: 23
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 1 Loughor
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Cwmfelyn Row, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, William Head Married M 34 1827 Blacksmith
Carmarthen Llanelly
EVANS, Margaret Wife Married F 35 1826
Carmarthen Llanelly
EVANS, Llewelyn Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Carmarthen Llanelly


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and another


1861 census transcription details for: 11, Sea View Terrace, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4111
Folio: 32
Page: 12
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 2 Llanelly
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Sea View Terrace, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, William Head Married M 35 1826 Coal Trimmer
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Jane Wife Married F 35 1826
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Hannah Daughter F 11 1850
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, William Son M 5 1856
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Jane Daughter F 3 1858
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire


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Keep in m1861 census transcription details for: 11, Sea View Terrace, Llanelly
Print Close National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4111
Folio: 32
Page: 12
Reg. District: Llanelly
Sub District: 2 Llanelly
Parish: Llanelly
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Sea View Terrace, Llanelly
County: Carmarthenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EVANS, William Head Married M 35 1826 Coal Trimmer
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Jane Wife Married F 35 1826
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Hannah Daughter F 11 1850
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, William Son M 5 1856
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire
EVANS, Jane Daughter F 3 1858
Llanelly, Carmarthenshire


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Keep in mind that the above is generally on "a balance of probabilities" basis, hoping that it may bring up other leads within your family's "folk memory" etc.

Alex



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