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Re: Johann Martin Waldvogel
Posted by: Cheryl Wendt Horn (ID *****3409) Date: May 11, 2003 at 16:26:49
In Reply to: Re: Johann Martin Waldvogel by Carol McElfresh of 47

This is the cousin, and I am very grateful. I would like to know where the information on the LDS site came from, since I cannot find a film of the church records in Stettin, Schaffhausen, Switzerland.
Here is the problem. My Martin John Waldvogel Jr.(I am assuming he is the same Johann Martin Waldvogel also born April 2, 1862)came to the U.S. in 1872 and his mother's maiden name is Anna Waldvogel. However, his father went by the name Martin, as he did. On Martin John Jr.'s death certifcate it lists his father's name as Martin John.
So the big questions is: Is Martin John Waldvogel Sr. the same person as Hans Martin Waldvogel on the LDS site? Is Hans another form of Johann? I think he is but I would like to be sure.
Proof that Hans Martin Waldvogel is John Martin Waldvogel Sr.:
My Martin John Waldvogel Jr. states in this Naturalization application that he came to America in Oct. of 1872. His death certificate states that his Mother's maiden name is Anna Waldvogel. The only Waldvogel I found emigrating Oct. 1872 is Anna Waldvogel, with children including Martin, age 9, which matches my Martin's date of birth.
Ship: City of Limerick From: Liverpool and Queenstown To: New York Arrived: 09 October 1872
Waldvogel, Anna age 42 Male (!)- Note: This age matches the LDS record for Anna Waldvogel, born 30 Jun 1830, spouse of Hans
George, age 20, Male Labr. Note: This makes him born about 1852. It is likely that this is not their son.
Verina, age 18, female spinster- Note: This matches the Verena Waldvogel, born 15 Oct 1854
Marie, age 11, female- Note:Anna Maria Waldvogel was born 11 Apr 1859
Elizabeth, age 10, female- Note: LDS Elisabeth born 09 Aug 1860
Martine, age 9, female (!) My Martin was born April 2, 1862, the exact date as the Martin in the LDS record and matching the age of this record.
Lydia, age 8, female. Note: Matches Lydia, born 11 Jun 1863

Another proof is that Hans Martin Waldvogel and Anna Waldvogel do not have a death recorded in Stettin.

Any ideas of where I can go from here to prove they are one in the same? Or do you have further knowledge of naming practices that will assure me that I am not barking up the wrong family tree?

I am most grateful. I would not have solved this problem without distant cousins such as Carol.

I am interested in knowing how you,also my likely cousins, ended up in the Netherlands.

Thank you! Cheryl Wendt Horn

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