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Re: Van Siclen/Van Sicklen Controversy revisited”
Posted by: D G Van Curen (ID *****7681) Date: December 08, 2002 at 01:15:18
In Reply to: Re: Van Siclen/Van Sicklen Controversy revisited” by Ed Gusman of 1585

Ed says: "I recognize the futility of redundant and non-productive research and gave it up long ago".

This is rich. Translated that means: "I only look for records that prove the statements in the DAR application/affadavits to be true. Since no such records exist, there is no point in researching". It was nice of you to verify for the reading audience that you don't believe in research. Of course, it wasn't necessary, since everyone has already figured that out.

Ed says: "Attempt to explain why Annetje Lawson did not show on the affidavits and DAR application if for 20 years she had been known as Annetje Lawson by Ferdinand Eastling as his grandmother."

That is easy. You have made reference to it before...the statement about Catharine Johnson being Cornelius' first wife. Annetje/Hannah Lawson certainly was known by Ferd and Fanny as their grandmother...because she was their grsndmother....but Violet's research came up with the name Catharine Johnson. I see one of two possibilities here:
1. Fanny and Ferd didn't know their grandmother's maiden name(many people don't) and simply thought that "Hannah" was the nickname for a woman named Catharine Johnson, identified as Cornelius' wife by Violet's(flawed) research.
2. Fanny and Ferd knew Hannah Lawson as their grandmother, but weren't certain that Cornelius wasn't married before, or if Hannah truly was Maria's mother. Confused by the name, Catharine Johnson, that came from Violet's(flawed) research, they simply repeated the name provided them by Violet, despite the fact they had no personal knowledge of that person.

Given the records at hand, only an idiot would fail to see the obvious - The name Catharine Johnson appearing in the affadavits was a result of that name being provided to Fanny and Ferd by Violet Voorhees. There is no doubt that they never heard that name from their mother...or if they did, it was in reference to the woman her great grandfather, also a Cornelius, was married to. Violet is the source of the name...deal with it.

Van


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