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John Grubb & Frances Vane
Posted by: Evelyn Rowland (ID *****7653) Date: March 21, 2008 at 00:07:34
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John Grubb married Frances Vane, grandaughter of Sir
Henry Vane Jr. Henry's daughter, Frances, married in 1665
Edward Kekewich of Cornwall where they lived and he died.
She died in Shipborne, Kent, in 1683 widow, daughter of
Henry Vane. Frances Vane born c1660, was a daughter of
one of Henry's sons, ?Henry Vane of Kent. John Grubb was
an attorney and a businessman, he helped prepare the,
Plan of Government for the Penn Colonies, in 1675 in
Buckinghamshire. The signatures on this document were:
John Grubb, William Clayton (also an attorney), Richard
Buffington, and William Penn. Judge, Ignatius Grubb, is
from John and Frances' eldest child, Emanuel Grubb, born
in 1682 in New Castle Co., Delaware. Thomas Grubb's son,
James Grubb moved to Norfolk Co., Va. and had inherited
the Family Bible. Emanuel Jr. inherited the Grubb
property in Delaware where Judge, Ignatius Grubb was
born. John Grubb was the son of John Grubb, born 1610,
in Wiltshire, and wife, Helen Vivian of Cornwall. John
and Helen lived in Cornwall where their son, John, was
born in 1652, then they returned to Wiltshire where they
died. John Sr. was a Royalist, an adherent of Charles I.
I have not seen the Bible of John and Frances Grubb but
my lineage has been approved by: Colonial Dames 17th
Century; Magna Charta Dames & Barons 1215 AD; and The
Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, through John Grubb
and wife, Frances Vane - through Sir Henry Vane Jr. (1613-
14 June 1662). William Clayton, Atty, was also of
Royal Descent. John Grubb descends from Henry Grubb
of Hertfordshire and wife, Lady Joan Parr Radcliffe,
daughter of Sir Richard Radcliffe. John is through
Henry and Joan's son, Robert, who settled in Wiltshire.
Henry Grubb III, the Quaker who came on the Kent in
1677 with John Grubb and William Clayton, is descended
from Henry and Joan's son, Thomas, who moved to Stokes
Climesland, Cornwall. John Grubb and Henry Grubb III
were 3rd cousins. John Grubb and Frances Vane were
never Quakers but some of their children were, including
my ancestors, Charity Grubb and husband, Richard Beeson.
Richard Beeson's father, Edward Beeson, was the son of
Isaac Beeson of Beeston Castle, Lancastershire, and
Isaac was William Penn's stepfather (From a handwritten
letter by William Penn now in the University of Nebraska
Library Archives.) John Grubb's lineage takes him back
to the early Denmark kings and the Dukes of Brunswick,
Germany. Their roots are in the Hartz Mtns of Germany.
Every person that came to the Penn Colonies had to have
a trade, such as carpenter, etc. John Grubb built the
first tannery in the Penn Colonies. He and Richard
Buffington were in real estate development and both
were adept in carpentry.
John Grubb came on the True Love to Boston in 1636 and
returned to England. I don't know if this was John Grubb
of Pa.& Delaware's father, since there was also a John
Grubb living in Essex, England. Sir Henry Vane Jr. was
Governor of the Mass. Bay Colony in 1635 and lost to
Winthrop in 1636 and returned to England. He was a
bitter enemy of Oliver Cromwell in Parliament.
Henry was also a Puritan but he believed that people
should live under one government but each should have
religious freedom. His writings were studied at Oxford
where William Penn and George Fox were students and
they believed that Henry Vane was correct for a Better
Plan of Government. Penn's Colonies were "A Holy
Experiment". King Charles II didn't think it would
work but he was willing to let them try it as long
as it was an ocean away from England and they had to
answer to him. There is so much more about these
families. If you descend from them you can ignore
the people who are Hell Bent to trash them. If those
people actually do descend from them (which is
doubtful) they should be spanked.
Our ancestors were good people. Go to the
large libraries and read about them and be happy
their genes run through your veins. They make you
want to try a little harder to do the right thing.

I have seen questions about Henry Vane living in
Barnard Castle. I have never seen that before.
Henry Vane Jr. and Sr. were in Raby and Durham
Castles. One of their relatives might be connected
to Barnard Castle.
I have two Barnard lines and they come from
Gloucestershire and went to Boston.
I am working on my other Grubb line who lived
in Goochland Co., Va. There is a lot of
misinformation about that family, too, but
so far no one is trying to trash them.
I have no idea where they will lead me.
This is my Maternal Grandfather's lineage.
John Grubb & Frances Vane are my Paternal
Grandmother's ancestors.
Evelyn Rowland



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