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Doug yes,
I do some are in the DRC in Catskill which branches into Coxsackie a few years later.
I am fairly certain the first Jan died and the second was a try again honorific. The sponsors were identical and I pick up only one line from a Jan son of Robbert/ Catharina.
Baptismal Record of Reformed Church Coxsackie, Baptismal Parent child sponsor
11/2/ 1755
Robbert Van Den Berk Jan Hendrik Van Den Berk
Catrina Van Den Berk Marejtye Van Den Berk.
and same source & format:
9/30/1753
Robbert Van Der Berk Treyntje Hendrick Van Den Berk
Catrientje Treyntje Van Den Berk
Treyntje being Dutch for Cathrine so this is likely Catherine Houghtaling being honored wife of Richard
( This one I believe is John R.who marries Agnes Storm. His son Robert I. marries Laura Reed and his dau. Catherine marries Rev. Robert Bronk.)
1/1/1762 Robbert Van Den Berk Jan Henderik Van Den Berk
Catharina Van Den Berk Mareytje Van Den Berk
Now this one seems absent from the church records but from birth order would be Coxsackie as well.
Elizabeth, 12/28/1758, The birth date is calculated from her grave stone, in the Van Orden cemetary. She is stated to marry Benjamin Van Orden in J. D. DeBeers.
I also have a Rachel but am not too sure on that one. it comes from Green County Will Abstracts. So that 's speculative.
I need to get the original will of Robbert and I suspect much of the J. D. Beers info is backed up there. Rykert,(Richard), Robbert's son is mentioned in J. D. Beers. (Jan) John R. is mentioned but not the first Jan.
If you have Rykert as first male it looks consistent with the established birth order pattern on the Dutch end, hard to figure the German side with the multiple names. I believe William, Elizabeth, and Christina are likely to be from the Brandow side.
Maternal
Catharina (Brandow? or did Robbert's mother just die?
William 2nd male, and Christina 3d Female.
Paternal
Rykert 1st male , Elizabeth, ? Jan 3rd male, possible Rachel as 4th female. If he baptismal theory is corect this Richard was born in 1748.
Anyhow, That's my best info. holes and more holes.
Doug have you looked into the multiple names and how they figure in birth order?
This I transcribed from J. D. Beers.
You'll see the first son is Niclaas, the next,
Johannes, then Johan Frederick, and Godfrey with, he sole female being Anna Christina Elizabetha. Catrientje would be next if my supposition is right.
BRANDOW.
Johann Wilhelm Brandau (Brandow), a Palatine, came to New York about 1710. In 1728 he bought land in the 2d division of the Loveridge Patent. His wife’s name was Maria Elizabetha Catharina. -- Children:
1, Nicolaas, supposed to be a son, b. in Germany, m. Kiingston, Nov. 5, 1726, Elizabeth Klyn. Lived on or near the Katerskill, and was alive in 1770.
2. Johannes, b. W. Camp, Feb. 16, 1712, m. Athens, Nov. 30,1737, Jannetje, b. May 16, 1713, dau. Arent Van Schaak and Marytje Van Loon, d. between Jan. 11 and Apr. 28, 1786, he date and probate of his will. A large land owner.
3, Johann Frederick, b. W. Camp, Jan. 1, 1715, m. Dec. 5 or 10, 1737, at Bak-Oven; Marytje Graat, d. between Sept. 12, 1787, and July 10, 1789 the date and probate of his will. Lived on the Katerskill.
4. Anna Christina Elizabetha, b. W. Camp, Nov. 8, 1717, m. Dec. 3, 1739, Hannes (John),. bp. Albany, Aug. 31, 1718, son Hendrick Schermerhoorn and Elsje or Elizabeth.
5. Godfrey, b._____, m. Athens, March 10, 1739-40, Catrina ( 2 J.P.O. Gen.), dau. Pieter Overbagh and Maria Christina Thonius, d. about 1795, in Greenville or Freehold will dated June 10, 1789.
The dutch order holds for both Houghtaling and VD, and is remarkabley consistent for several generations.
Looking at Beers. I see most males have Willem, or Johannes. Niclaas seems to be the exception. Elizabeth is very common as is Anna/Annetje.
Paul
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