Re: CHECK OUT What I've been told about Vances
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Re: What I've been told about Vances
Gail white 4/07/99
While the Vance Family Association web site is a very good one, the article on the derivation of the VANCE name is not a discussion of its genealogical significance, but rather a lexical (dictionary) type of explanation. Its premise, by a VANCE descendant,is basically that the Les Baux name can be traced back to Les Baux, France.
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The information that follows was passed on to me in typewritten form by a researcher. Of course, if someone wanted to "prove" any pedigree, they would have to trace their own lineage, but I think this may be useful/interesting to everyone.
THE VANCE FAMILY
THE VANCE FAMILYThere have been many conjectures concerning the origin of this family. Norman Historians claim that they are a Branch of the Visigothic Balte.
There have been many conjectures concerning the origin of this family. Norman Historians claim that they are a Branch of the Visigothic Balte.The first on record is Rollin de BAUX, in 800, who married the daughter of William, Count of Orange and niece of the wife of Charlemagne.
The first on record is Rollin de BAUX, in 800, who married the daughter of William, Count of Orange and niece of the wife of Charlemagne.In 939, Bertrand deBAUX of Provence, went to Normandy and became the progenitor of the family of De VAUX, which long ranked high among the nobles of Normandy; these 2 names - BAUX and VAUX are synonymous. Mr. William Balberine of Scotland says that in 1066 there were three brothers: Hubert, Rudolph, and Robert, sons of Harold de VAUX, Lord of
Vaux in Normandy. They accompanied William the Conqueror to England and there became Lords DeVAUX of Breve (or Brevor) in Norfolk of Gillesland in Cumberland, and of Harrindian in Northhamstonshire.
Vaux in Normandy. They accompanied William the Conqueror to England and there became Lords DeVAUX of Breve (or Brevor) in Norfolk of Gillesland in Cumberland, and of Harrindian in Northhamstonshire.
In England the name of VAUX became extinct by the death of Henry VAUX, Lord of Harrandean, in 1661. In Scotland, it has continued, changed to VANS in the 12th century.
In England the name of VAUX became extinct by the death of Henry VAUX, Lord of Harrandean, in 1661. In Scotland, it has continued, changed to VANS in the 12th century.When the VANS became enobled and were given the title of Lords of Dirlston Castle, in East Lathian, a young brother, the first Lord of Dirlston, settled in Wegbonshire, and that family, the VANS of Barnbarroch, are ancestors of the VANS and VANCE [families] of Ireland. It has been a family of great distinction, giving to the State, knights,
bishops, judges, secretaries of State, ambassadors, Members of Parliament, statesmen, eminent surgeons, ministers and authors.
bishops, judges, secretaries of State, ambassadors, Members of Parliament, statesmen, eminent surgeons, ministers and authors.
Hubert De VAUX, eldest son of Harold, Lord de VAUX of Normandy, was the first Lord of Parliament after the Conquest. His son, Rudolph, settled in Scotland in 1130. This family combines within itself the blood of
some of the most ancient names in European genealogy and is numbered among the "Magnates Scotia" as early as 1244. "Scottish Heraldry records that few ancient names of Scotland can trace their origin to so distinguished a foreign source as that of VANS, or de VAUX.
some of the most ancient names in European genealogy and is numbered among the "Magnates Scotia" as early as 1244. "Scottish Heraldry records that few ancient names of Scotland can trace their origin to so distinguished a foreign source as that of VANS, or de VAUX.
The First Sir John VANS of Barnbarroch married Elizabeth KENNEDY of Cassel (family or county). He was an Ambassador from James II of Scotland to Henry I of England. In 1438 he concluded a truce with England.
The First Sir John VANS of Barnbarroch married Elizabeth KENNEDY of Cassel (family or county). He was an Ambassador from James II of Scotland to Henry I of England. In 1438 he concluded a truce with England.Sir John was succeded by his eldest son, Robert VANS, who received a charter in 1451, confirming to him the lands of Barnbarroch. Robert was succeeded by his son, Blanse, who married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John SHAW, Ambassador from Scotland to Denmark. Blanse was succeded by his son, Patrick, who married Margaret KENNEDY, daughter of Lord John
Kennedy, one of the Regents of Scotland and grandson of Princess Mary, daughter of King Robert III and wife Elizabeth, daughter of Lord Montgomerie. Sir John Alexander was next in line, but was killed in battle in 1547. He was succeeded by his son, John Alexander, who married Lady Jane KENNEDY, left no son, and was succeeded by Sir Patrick II Earl of Barnbarroch, who married (1st) Lady Catherine, daughter of Gilbert, the Third Earl of Casselis, Lord High Treasurer of Scotland. Sir Patrick II was of the Privy Council and one of the Commissioners to govern the kingdom during royal absences; was High Sheriff and Treasurer of Scotland, and represented Scotland at the nuptials of Queen Mary with the Dauphin of France.
Kennedy, one of the Regents of Scotland and grandson of Princess Mary, daughter of King Robert III and wife Elizabeth, daughter of Lord Montgomerie. Sir John Alexander was next in line, but was killed in battle in 1547. He was succeeded by his son, John Alexander, who married Lady Jane KENNEDY, left no son, and was succeeded by Sir Patrick II Earl of Barnbarroch, who married (1st) Lady Catherine, daughter of Gilbert, the Third Earl of Casselis, Lord High Treasurer of Scotland. Sir Patrick II was of the Privy Council and one of the Commissioners to govern the kingdom during royal absences; was High Sheriff and Treasurer of Scotland, and represented Scotland at the nuptials of Queen Mary with the Dauphin of France.
The VANS of Barnbarroch are the descendants of Rev. John VANS, A.M. first in Ireland are all descendants of "The Bruce and Royal House of Stewarts". Sir Patrick II was succeded by his son, Sir John VANS, 15, son of second marriage. King James VI granted him valuable estates in County Donegal, Ireland, his title being "Sir John VANS of Longcastle, Knight". He was succeded by his son, Sir Walter SCOTT of Bucclough. Sir John married Margaret McDOWELL and had JOHN VANS, A.M. of Donegal City, Ireland, 1617-1662. For 45 years he was Rector of Trilenacreman, Diocese of ____, Donegal. All the VANS in Ireland and America are descendants of Rev. John VANS, A.M. His eldest son, Patrick, was an officer in
Cromwell's army. He had six sons: Patrick, James, Derry, David, William, and Thomas.
Cromwell's army. He had six sons: Patrick, James, Derry, David, William, and Thomas.
The VANCE family record of Virginis was always distinguished for bravery. In the list of Colonial Soldiers in General assembly,
Williamsburg, VA, 1758, John, Samuel, Andrew, James, John [VANCE]. In the Revolutionary War in Virginia, the VANCEs stood in line of battle at Lexington, Bunker Hill, Ticonderoga, Valley Forge and Yorktown. Later, in the War Between the States, at Antietam, Gettysburg, Chattanooga, Richmond -- all for the South.
Williamsburg, VA, 1758, John, Samuel, Andrew, James, John [VANCE]. In the Revolutionary War in Virginia, the VANCEs stood in line of battle at Lexington, Bunker Hill, Ticonderoga, Valley Forge and Yorktown. Later, in the War Between the States, at Antietam, Gettysburg, Chattanooga, Richmond -- all for the South.
Major William VANCE married Margaret VANCE, daughter of Samuel and Margaret VANCE, and lived hear Dangemon, Ireland. His son James married Elizabeth GLASS in Ireland and came to Virginia in 1735-36 and settled in the Shenandoah Valley on the banks of the Opequan [river]. James VANCE was much with Lord Fairfax; died in 1762 leaving 4 children: John, Samuel, Margaret, and HESTER. HESTER VANCE married WALTER SHIRLEY JR. 1759 in Charleston VA. They had 10 children. MARY, the 9th child, married DR. HUGH BARTON at Greenville TN in 1799. They had 12 children. I will attempt to post this information on a BARTON GenForum if there is one, including these 12 children's names.
Major William VANCE married Margaret VANCE, daughter of Samuel and Margaret VANCE, and lived hear Dangemon, Ireland. His son James married Elizabeth GLASS in Ireland and came to Virginia in 1735-36 and settled in the Shenandoah Valley on the banks of the Opequan [river]. James VANCE was much with Lord Fairfax; died in 1762 leaving 4 children: John, Samuel, Margaret, and HESTER. HESTER VANCE married WALTER SHIRLEY JR. 1759 in Charleston VA. They had 10 children. MARY, the 9th child, married DR. HUGH BARTON at Greenville TN in 1799. They had 12 children. I will attempt to post this information on a BARTON GenForum if there is one, including these 12 children's names.I am descended from Walter SHIRLEY Jr. and Hester VANCE.
I am descended from Walter SHIRLEY Jr. and Hester VANCE.Please note: there is also a Shirley Family web site:http://www.shirleyassociation.com
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