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Re: REV. DANIEL HOFF (1746 NJ - 1802 Pr. Wm. Co., VA)
Posted by: John Scott Hoff (ID *****2849) Date: June 05, 2005 at 08:38:44
In Reply to: REV. DANIEL HOFF (1746 NJ - 1802 Pr. Wm. Co., VA) by John Scott Hoff of 404

REV. DANIEL HOFF (1746 NJ - 1802 VA). I have spent this entire weekend in the Prince William Co./Manassas VA area searching for added background on the Rev. Daniel Hoff. Unless there might have been 2 DANIEL HOFFs (which I don't find too likely, but is a possibility), the one I seek I believe was born in Raritan, Somerset Co., NJ in about 1746 to a JOHN/JONATHAN HOFF. He was married in Hunterdon Co., NJ on 19 Sep 1759 to W#1: LAURA TITUS. He is belived to have had three sons by her:
1. Amos Hoff
2. Powell
3. Cornelius Hoff
I have never seen credible data to support their dates of birth or exact locations of birth.
Then, in about ~1770, for unknown reasons, he moved from NJ to Prince William Co., VA, near the site of present day Manassas. He was reportedly a minister, but may have been a lay minister. His first wife may have died in NJ before the move, or she might have died shortly afterwards. No date of death, location or burial site has been established for her. At some point, presumably in ~1772, he remarried W#2: SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT (b:1749 - d: 16 July 1819 in Lawrence Twp., Washington Co., OH). Her father was a Rev. William Moffett, according to an obituary that appeared for her son, ENOCH HOFF (which appeared following hius death in the Marietta, Washington Co., OH newspaper in 1815). No date of marriage or place has been verified for Daniel's marriage to Susan, nor has the location of her birth and exact date been established. Her DOB was calculated from her Obit. Notice in the Marietta Paper, which established her date of death as being 16 Jul 1819. Since Prince William Co., was a "burned" county in the Civil War, no permanent records that proceed that event survive. However, some data from other sources has come to light to help establish some essential facts about Daniel.
One key fact that was learned on this trip (end of April 2005) was that DANIEL HOFF's father, JOHN HOFF (1720 NJ - after 1792 in VA) apparently came from NJ to VA with his son because I found his name attesting to a Wedding Bond witnessed by his son DANIEL HOFF on Feb. 6, 1792 in Virginia. So, he lived to at least that date, before dying, presumably in the Pr. William area. Having both JOHN HOFF's and DANIEL's names on a single piece of paper ties them convincingly and puts John in the area.
Daniel and SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT has some 8 children there in Northern VA, and several list some of their birth locations as "Alexandria", Butt after spending a day in the Gen. Sec. of the Alexandria Public Library, I find not a shread of evidence to support that any of the children of the Rev. Daniel Hoff were actually born in nor Danile having lived in the City of Alexandria, some 25 miles east of Prince William Co. Perhaps since it was somewhat close, the children may have later said that they were born in Alexandria, since nobody ever heard of Manassas until the Civil War, and there wasn't much of even a village there in Colonial times. There wasn't anything to tie Daniel or his wife with Alexandria, either. But since the records of Pr. William Co. were destroyed, and don't exist, it is difficult to firmly tie Daniel to Prince William Co., as well. However, there is a MOORE HOFF, whose name is linked on numerous documents with DANIEL HOFF, and it is probable that there was a family tie between the two: They sign documents together, their names appear next to the other on numerous things, which causes me to SPECULATE or wonder if they might have been brothers. Moore was a land owner on the eastern bank of the Broad Run River, directly across from the eastern side of the present day Manassas Regional Airport, at the sharp bend just below the Cannon Branch that runs into the Broad Run River. It is possible that DANIEL could have resided there on MOORE's property, and helped him farm. There has been extensive excavation at this site and over 13,000 aritfacts have been discovered and well documented. There are also 15 unmarked graves (recently rediscovered) on that site. When DANIEL died in 1802, it is possible/probable that he might have been buried there bewfore his widow and all 7 of her children and other collateral families left to go to Washington Co., OH in 1805.
Here are the yet unanswered questions I have about Daniel:
1. When exactly and why did Daniel Hoff move from NJ to VA, and who all accompanied him? This apparently included DANIEL's father, JOHN HOFF (~1720 - <1792).
2. What is the relationship between MOORE HOFF and DANIEL HOFF?
3. Where did DANIEL HOFF live in Pr. William Co.?
4. What religious denomination was Daniel and what was the source of his title "Rev."? (I read that it was not uncommon for individuals to be "voted" by the vestry to serve as the lay minister for the small congregation which met in somebody's cabin, since no magnificient churches has been erected in rural Virginia at this time.)
5. When did LAURA TITUS die, and under what circumstances? Where is she buried?
6. When did Daniel remarry SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT? Who married them? Her father was reportedly a minister, William Moffett, but when and where he was born, or her mother's identity is still a mystery. Where did he come from. Did he move from NJ to VA, as well, and knew Daniel from before? I find no evidence on him whatsoever in the Prince William Co. area of Virginia. Daniel and Susan's first son, ENOCH HOFF was reportedly born in 1773, so presumably, W#2, LAURA has to have died something before that time, as well as the presumed re-marriage to SUSAN.
7. Did Daniel farm, in addition to his religious pursuits? If he farmed, where did he do that?
8. Exactly when did DANIEL die? How did he die? Was there a Will left? Who were hie heirs and what was the disposition of his property when de died ~1802?
9. Did the 3 sons of LAURA TITUS come with him to VA? I found the names CORNELIUS and AMOS HOFF in the 1810 Prince William Census, along with several of the sons of MOORE HOFF, which survived the burned courthouse records.
What were their exact dates of birth?
10. What made SUSAN, his widow, decide to tear up stakes and move on to Ohio in 1805 after his death?
11. What was her path to get to Marietta? She reportedly came by "flatboat" down the river, so presumably, she and the combined families making the move went via Braddock Road (today's Hwy. #40) to the headwaters of the Ohio or Mongahilia Rivers, near Pittsburgh, and the paid a boatsman to float them down to near Marietta, Washington Co., OH from there. I would be thrilled if someday, somebody found a diary or journal kept by one of the participants chronicalling the move. I wonder how long it took, and to what extent things had been organized ahead of time, like the probable pre-purchase of the land from land agents working the Northern Virginia area selling "cheap" land from the Ohio Land Company located in Marietta. It seems unlikely that they just went there without things having been arranged well ahead of time. Perhaps one of the trusted family members went ahead to be sure things were properly arranged.
12. I wonder if DANIEL or his 3 older boys had any political leanings or military duties during the Rev. War period? Were they Loyalists, Patriots, or just didn't give a darn and wanted to farm in peace? Daniel, with his religious leanings may also have objected to such pursuits and was an early "conscientious objector". By the time of his death in 1802, he would have been age 56 and the active military phase would have been done by 1789. But in 1776, he would have only been age 30, and certainly of the age of military service. Somebody had written that he moved from NJ to VA "to get away from the wars..." but I didn't think there was a lot of wars in the coastal areas of NJ in the mid 1760s. I have seen no evidence of military service in the militia of either NJ or VA by him.
These, and a thousand other, unanswered questions remain about the largely unknown life of the "Rev." DANIEL HOFF and his two wives, LAURA TITUS and SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT. Any insight by other presumably "Dutch" Hoffs who descend from this interesting man would be appreciated.
Please contact me, John S. Hoff, at <jsh@aviationattorney.com> or call me at (312) 346-8111 at my work in Chicago, IL. Sincerely, JOHN SCOTT HOFF



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REV. DANIEL HOFF (1746 NJ - 1802 VA). I have spent this entire weekend of late April 2005 in the Prince William Co./Manassas VA area searching for added background on the Rev. Daniel Hoff. Unless there might have been 2 DANIEL HOFFs (which I don't find too likely, but is a possibility), the one I seek I believe was born in Raritan, Somerset Co., NJ in about 1746 to a JOHN/JONATHAN HOFF. He was married in Hunterdon Co., NJ on 19 Sep 1759 to W#1: LAURA TITUS. He is belived to have had three sons by her:
1. Amos Hoff
2. Powell
3. Cornelius Hoff
I have never seen credible data to support their dates of birth or exact locations of birth.
Then, in about ~1770, for unknown reasons, he moved from NJ to Prince William Co., VA, near the site of present day Manassas. He was reportedly a minister, but may have been a lay minister. His first wife may have died in NJ before the move, or she might have died shortly afterwards. No date of death, location or burial site has been established for W#1, LAURA. At some point, presumably in ~1772 (because their first son, ENOCH was born in 1773, but this fact certainly isn't dispositive of when he was re-married or married and no date of death for LAURA has bed documented, nor has the exact date of mis marriage to SUSAN), he remarried W#2: SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT (b:1749 - d: 16 July 1819 in Lawrence Twp., Washington Co., OH). Her father was a Rev. William Moffett, according to an obituary that appeared for her son, ENOCH HOFF (which appeared following hius death in the Marietta, Washington Co., OH newspaper in 1815). No date of marriage or place has been verified for Daniel's marriage to Susan, nor has the location of her birth and exact date been established. Her DOB was calculated from her Obit. Notice in the Marietta Paper, which established her date of death as being 16 Jul 1819. Since Prince William Co., was a "burned" county in the Civil War, no permanent records that proceed that event survive. However, some data from other sources has come to light to help establish some essential facts about Daniel.
One key fact that was learned on this trip (end of April 2005) was that DANIEL HOFF's father, JOHN HOFF (1720 NJ - after 1792 in VA) apparently came from NJ to VA with his son because I found his name attesting to a Wedding Bond witnessed by his son DANIEL HOFF on Feb. 6, 1792 in Virginia. So, he lived to at least that date, before dying, presumably in the Pr. William area. Having both JOHN HOFF's and DANIEL's names on a single piece of paper ties them convincingly and puts John in the area.
Daniel and SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT has some 8 children there in Northern VA, and several list some of their birth locations as "Alexandria", Butt after spending a day in the Gen. Sec. of the Alexandria Public Library, I find not a shread of evidence to support that any of the children of the Rev. Daniel Hoff were actually born in nor Danile having lived in the City of Alexandria, some 25 miles east of Prince William Co. Perhaps since it was somewhat close, the children may have later said that they were born in Alexandria, since nobody ever heard of Manassas until the Civil War, and there wasn't much of even a village there in Colonial times. There wasn't anything to tie Daniel or his wife with Alexandria, either. But since the records of Pr. William Co. were destroyed, and don't exist, it is difficult to firmly tie Daniel to Prince William Co., as well. However, there is a MOORE HOFF, whose name is linked on numerous documents with DANIEL HOFF, and it is probable that there was a family tie between the two: They sign documents together, their names appear next to the other on numerous things, which causes me to SPECULATE or wonder if they might have been brothers. Moore was a land owner on the eastern bank of the Broad Run River, directly across from the eastern side of the present day Manassas Regional Airport, at the sharp bend just below the Cannon Branch that runs into the Broad Run River. It is possible that DANIEL could have resided there on MOORE's property, and helped him farm. There has been extensive excavation at this site and over 13,000 aritfacts have been discovered and well documented. There are also 15 unmarked graves (recently rediscovered) on that site. When DANIEL died in 1802, it is possible/probable that he might have been buried there bewfore his widow and all 7 of her children and other collateral families left to go to Washington Co., OH in 1805.
Here are the yet unanswered questions I have about Daniel:
1. When exactly and why did Daniel Hoff move from NJ to VA, and who all accompanied him? This apparently included DANIEL's father, JOHN HOFF (~1720 - <1792).
2. What is the relationship between MOORE HOFF and DANIEL HOFF?
3. Where did DANIEL HOFF live in Pr. William Co.?
4. What religious denomination was Daniel and what was the source of his title "Rev."? (I read that it was not uncommon for individuals to be "voted" by the vestry to serve as the lay minister for the small congregation which met in somebody's cabin, since no magnificient churches has been erected in rural Virginia at this time.)
5. When did LAURA TITUS die, and under what circumstances? Where is she buried?
6. When did Daniel remarry SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT? Who married them? Her father was reportedly a minister, William Moffett, but when and where he was born, or her mother's identity is still a mystery. Where did he come from. Did he move from NJ to VA, as well, and knew Daniel from before? I find no evidence on him whatsoever in the Prince William Co. area of Virginia. Daniel and Susan's first son, ENOCH HOFF was reportedly born in 1773, so presumably, W#2, LAURA has to have died something before that time, as well as the presumed re-marriage to SUSAN.
7. Did Daniel farm, in addition to his religious pursuits? If he farmed, where did he do that?
8. Exactly when did DANIEL die? How did he die? Was there a Will left? Who were hie heirs and what was the disposition of his property when de died ~1802?
9. Did the 3 sons of LAURA TITUS come with him to VA? I found the names CORNELIUS and AMOS HOFF in the 1810 Prince William Census, along with several of the sons of MOORE HOFF, which survived the burned courthouse records.
What were their exact dates of birth?
10. What made SUSAN, his widow, decide to tear up stakes and move on to Ohio in 1805 after his death?
11. What was her path to get to Marietta? She reportedly came by "flatboat" down the river, so presumably, she and the combined families making the move went via Braddock Road (today's Hwy. #40) to the headwaters of the Ohio or Mongahilia Rivers, near Pittsburgh, and the paid a boatsman to float them down to near Marietta, Washington Co., OH from there. I would be thrilled if someday, somebody found a diary or journal kept by one of the participants chronicalling the move. I wonder how long it took, and to what extent things had been organized ahead of time, like the probable pre-purchase of the land from land agents working the Northern Virginia area selling "cheap" land from the Ohio Land Company located in Marietta. It seems unlikely that they just went there without things having been arranged well ahead of time. Perhaps one of the trusted family members went ahead to be sure things were properly arranged.
12. I wonder if DANIEL or his 3 older boys had any political leanings or military duties during the Rev. War period? Were they Loyalists, Patriots, or just didn't give a darn and wanted to farm in peace? Daniel, with his religious leanings may also have objected to such pursuits and was an early "conscientious objector". By the time of his death in 1802, he would have been age 56 and the active military phase would have been done by 1789. But in 1776, he would have only been age 30, and certainly of the age of military service. Somebody had written that he moved from NJ to VA "to get away from the wars..." but I didn't think there was a lot of wars in the coastal areas of NJ in the mid 1760s. I have seen no evidence of military service in the militia of either NJ or VA by him.
These, and a thousand other, unanswered questions remain about the largely unknown life of the "Rev." DANIEL HOFF and his two wives, LAURA TITUS and SUSAN SOPHIA MOFFETT. Any insight by other presumably "Dutch" Hoffs who descend from this interesting man would be appreciated.
Please contact me, John S. Hoff, at <jsh@aviationattorney.com> or call me at (312) 346-8111 at my work in Chicago, IL. Sincerely, JOHN SCOTT HOFF















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