Big changes have come to Genealogy.com — all content is now read-only, and member subscriptions and the Shop have been discontinued.
 
Learn more


Chat | Daily Search | My GenForum | Community Standards | Terms of Service
Jump to Forum
Home: Regional: U.S. States: Virginia: Botetourt County

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

Frederick WINEMAN md. Catherine RANCK/RONK, to Botetourt Co VA abt 1795
Posted by: J Erickson (ID *****1952) Date: February 21, 2003 at 14:23:24
  of 1300

Until lately, I believed that Frederick WINEMAN was born in Pennsylvania. A bio which is at the end of this post suggests he may have been an immigrant from Germany in the late 1700s. This is among the mysteries I would like to clear up. More about Frederick:

Frederick was married to Catherine RANCK (her father changed the surname to RONK as an adult, and his sons went by RONK, but she may have been married before this change occurred). Catherine was b. Mar 1768 (some sources say 8 Mar, some 28 Mar), in Lancaster County, PA, to George RANCK/RONK and wife Barbara (----). George was b. 1736, Lancaster County, PA, and d. bef Mar. 1812, Botetourt County, VA; he was the s/o John Philip RANCK, immigrant, and wife Anna Barbara SCHUMACHER, about whom many postings can be found on ancestry.com and on genforum on the RANCK and RONK boards. George was b. in Earl Twp., Lancaster Co., and was living in Brecknock Twp. in 1790, where at least one of his children was married, so it is likely (but no proof yet!) that Frederick was living nearby, and married Catherine in or near this northeastern area of Lancaster County. From her date of birth, Frederick was probably born in the 1760s.

Frederick and Catherine moved from PA to Botetourt County, VA, probably in 1794 or 1795, which is when her father George RONK moved to Botetourt County, VA, with at least one of his sisters, her entire family, and almost all of his own children, some of whom were grown like Catherine.

In Jun 1795, Frederick (listed as WYMEN) purchased Lot 30 in Greenville (Howry Town), Botetourt County, VA.

In 1810 Frederick (a male 45 or older) and family are on the 1810 census of Botetourt Co., including Catherine, five girls of various ages, and three boys under age ten.

Frederick and Catherine had five girls whom I am aware of from marriage records. Children living with a couple on census are not always their own children, but it is fairly likely that the three boys are theirs.

Children of Frederick and Catherine WINEMAN known from marriages-- all in Botetourt County, VA (note-birth order based on dates of marriages only-Barbara may not be eldest):
Barbara, b. 13 Jan 1794, md.John VANDEGRIFT 12 Sep 1812 (some desc. to Sangamon Co., IL);
Susanna, md. Abraham KESSLER 21 Aug 1816;
Catharine, md. John MOORE 3 Dec 1823;
Anna, md. Watson ARMSTRONG 26 Mar 1824 (some desc. to Macoupin Co., IL);
Elizabeth, md. Green RICHARDSON 17 Dec 1830.

I recently learned about one son:
Philip, b 9 Sep 1801 in Botetourt County, VA, d 9 Sep 1883 in Ball Twp, Sangamon Co., IL; bur Cumberland Presbyterian Sugar Creek Cemetery, Sangamon Co., IL (to Sangamon County, IL about 1823 or 1824)
md. (1) on 11 Aug 1825 in Auburn Township, Sangamon Co., IL --Jane CROW b 9 Aug 1806 in Christian Co., KY, d 19 May 1849 in Ball Twp, Sangamon Co., IL, dau/o Robert and Margaret (KERSHNER) CROW; bur Cumberland Presbyterian Sugar Creek Cemetery, Sangamon Co., IL
md. (2) on 23 Mar 1853 Sarah A. MORRELL b: 4 Jul 1822 in Maine d: 30 Jan 1908

Frederick was living, and still in Botetourt Co., in Nov 1817, when he and his wife sold their interest in some land she had inherited from her father George, but he was deceased by Aug 1860, when Catherine is on the 1860 census of Botetourt County living in the household of her widowed daughter, Barbara (WINEMAN) VANDEGRIFT. I do not know when he died, or where he is buried, but since his wife seems not to have left the county it seems likely he d. in Botetourt County.

A bio of a grandson in Sangamon County gives a few more clues about Frederick WINEMAN:
"Frederick Wineman, a German by birth, came to America during the days of his early manhood and settled in Pennsylvania where he married. He was a cooper by trade but after his removal to Botetourt County, Va., followed farming in connection with his chosen occupation and became a well-to-do citizen. In the Revolutionary War he served his adopted country, valiantly aiding in her struggle for independence. He was a member of the Baptist Church and died in that faith in Virginia."

If this information is correct, then Frederick may have immigrated about 1780-1790 or so, based on Catherine's dob for his guessed dob, and based on this sketchy "early days of manhood" date for his immigration. However, online immigration records in this period are nil, and I right now I don't have access to books that might include this period. Anyone?

Most interested in German birth and immigration or (PA?) birth info, where Frederick was living prior to marrying Catherine, marriage data for them-- Lancaster County or perhaps southern Berks County?-- and death/burial info for Frederick and Catherine. Any birth records for their children (especially the two as-yet-unknown boys b 1801-1810) are also very welcome, as is any descendancy info.

Hope someone recognizes this family! Thanks in advance!


Notify Administrator about this message?
Followups:
No followups yet

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

http://genforum.genealogy.com/va/botetourt/messages/758.html
Search this forum:

Search all of GenForum:

Proximity matching
Add this forum to My GenForum Link to GenForum
Add Forum
Home |  Help |  About Us |  Site Index |  Jobs |  PRIVACY |  Affiliate
© 2007 The Generations Network