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Re: "Шульц будинок", Новоград-Волинський
Posted by: Jack Mason (ID *****3726) Date: April 18, 2013 at 08:38:43
In Reply to: Re: "Шульц будинок", Новоград-Волинський by Hania of 12143

Thanks, Hania. This really is a very good article.

I continue to be puzzled, though about how my family arrived here. I have some very close autosomal DNA matches that suggest my ancestors came to Novohrad-Volynskyi from Hamburg, Germany--a very unusual route.

The vast majority of Germans, as depicted in this article, came from Poland, or perhaps Czech lands, Silesia or Baden-Wuerttemberg. In the thousands of articles and death records I have studied, I have encountered only a single instance of anyone emigrating from Lower Saxony to Ukraine, and none at all coming from Schleswig-Holstein.

I do also have some DNA matches with Germans from Poland and Silesia, but they are all much more remote, perhaps as remote as the middle ages, whereas my Hamburg matches likely date from the mid-1700's to the early 1800's.

On the other hand, I even have one DNA match with a person of, as far as she knows, pure ethnic Ukrainian descent--although it is a very remote match. Maybe going back to medieval times.

I wonder if perhaps my ancestors were among that very small class of industrial or business managers that Polish and Russian landlords often imported. The earliest references to my ancestors show them living on lands owned by Count Uvarov, who was very famous as a Germanophile and entrepreneurial landlord.

I have seen a very good but high-level and non-specific article on this time in history written by a Ukrainian man named Mihailo Kostyuk. He seems to be one of very few historians studying this kind of thing.

Most of my ancestors came to the USA from Ireland, and I have to say that as poor as Irish church records are, they have made fantastic efforts to make old estate records public. I hope this sort of thing can eventually happen for Ukraine.



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