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Re: PAYNE, JOHN WESLEY
Posted by: Thomas Kerwin (ID *****3248) Date: April 06, 2012 at 14:19:48
In Reply to: PAYNE, JOHN WESLEY by margie croney of 65481

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1930 is the last available census at this time.



These statements explain why you will not find the parents of John Wesley PAYNE.

Facts you should know about the early census records -
All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.

NO specific age was stated for any family member
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country
NO city, town, or village is stated – only the county; however some census takers listed the township
NO street address was stated
NO marital status was stated – single, married, widowed, or divorced
NO family relationship was stated – brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc…
NO occupation was stated
NO parental birthplaces are stated                     
NO race was stated [but assume “white”]
       
1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces.

Step children are not enumerated as “step” children
Adopted children are not enumerated as “adopted”
Grand children are not enumerated as “grand children”
Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan"

1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members

1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces +++


WHERE was John Wesley PAYNE born????????

TEXAS Vital Records -
The Texas Vital Statistics law to register births and deaths was not passed until 1903. Texas was then and is now a dual registration state which means the local registrars retain a copy of all birth and death records for the events that take place within their jurisdiction and the state retains the original of all birth and death records for the entire State of Texas. However, the statutes for registering these events were not made mandatory until 1926. However, many local registrars did not adhere to the statutes until the late 1930’s or early 1940’s. This means some records reside only in the local registrars’ files and not with the State.

Sherry Crawford
Group Manager
Request Processing
Vital Statistics Unit
(888) 963-7111, ext 6195


Therefore, there is no death cert for John Wesley PAYNE.
Parents names are usually listed on the death cert.

Texas was not a state at the time of the 1840 census.



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