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Re: Basket(t), Judkins, McMullen 1820s in TN, AL, TX
Posted by: David Hindman (ID *****8828) Date: February 25, 2011 at 00:35:12
In Reply to: Re: Basket(t), Judkins, McMullen 1820s in TN, AL, TX by Christel McMullen of 65424

Hi again Christel. Earlier in this thread I posted that from the 1820, 1830 and 1840 census data for William Basket it seemed to me that there were no more than four Basket daughters, and also one unknown Basket son who is gone by 1850. You can see this in the censuses below:

1820 Census, Maury Co. TN, page 39
William Basket 10001-2001
1 male slave 0-14, no free blacks.
No person employed in agriculture (may indicate he was not
a farmer). We can't be sure this is our William Basket, but
in 1850 our William Basket was a miller, not a farmer).

1830 Census, Lauderdale Co. AL, page 222
Basket, William 0100001-211001
No free blacks, no slaves.

1840 Census, Lauderdale Co. AL, page 92
Basket, Wm. 000000001 - 00210001
No slaves, no free blacks. One person employed in
manufacturing and trades. Two persons employed in

I'm interpreting the census data as saying the unknown Basket son was born about 1819 or 1820. Something not communicated in the transcription is that judging from the handwritten census the census taker in 1830 was apparently a bit uncertain whether to tally the son's age in the 5-10 or 10-15 column.

But there are five ladies who sort of look like they might be sisters: Catherine McMullen, Ann Donahoo, Elizabeth Judkins, Jane Whitaker and Mary Ellen Payne.

Which one isn't really a daughter of William and Catherine Basket? And if one isn't a daughter of William Basket, how is she related to the rest of them?

Just guessing here, but I think it might be Elizabeth. We have the following Lauderdale County Alabama marriage record:

Elizabeth Baskett to Charles G. Judkins, 3 Feb 1836

Okay, if this is a first marriage for both Charles and Elizabeth, and barring "exceptional circumstances", their first child should have been born no earlier than November 1836. Such a first child should show up on the 1840 census as less than 5 years old, and on the 1850 census as no older than 13 or maybe 14. But we have the following census information for Charles & Elizabeth Judkins:

1840 Census, Lauderdale Co. AL, page 115
Jenkins[Judkins], Chs. 01001 - 20001

1850 Census, Lauderdale Co. AL, page 313
Household 154/154
Charles Judkins 34,M,Carpenter,600,Va
Elizabeth " 32,F,blank,blank,Tenn
John " 16,M,Student,blank,Ala
Martha " 14,F,blank,blank,Ala
Sarah " 12,F,blank,blank,Ala
William " 10,M,blank,blank,Ala
Frederic " 8,M,blank,blank,Ala
Charles " 4,M,blank,blank,Ala
Rebecca " 2,F,blank,blank,Ala
Attended school that year: John, Martha, Sarah, William

What we see is a son, John Judkins, who seems to have been born before Charles G. Judkins and Elizabeth Basket's marriage date.

With no further information, I think we'd have to allow for the possibility that this was not a first marriage for either Charles Judkins or Elizabeth.

In particular, Elizabeth could possibly have been a young widow of the unknown son of William and Catherine Basket, in which case Elizabeth would have been a sister in law of the others, not a true sister. On the marriage license, her name at the time would have been Elizabeth Basket of course, even though she might not have been a daughter of William and Catherine Basket.

This ties in with G L Puerner's post on this thread dated 31 Jan 2011, where he or she wrote:

"...I am descended deom Jane Basket and Isaac "Cary" Whitaker. My information is that she moved her family to Texas after Cary died, by wagon train along with her two sisters and their families..."

This would have been around 1853. From the 1850 census data the people coming from Alabama to Texas by wagon train should have been Jane, Catherine, Ann and Elizabeth. (Mary Ellen was already in Texas by 1850.) But G L Puerner's family information was that Jane and her TWO sisters came together, not "Jane and her THREE sisters".

John, the son who was born before the marriage date of Charles G Judkins and Elizabeth Basket, might possibly have been born a Basket and later taken the name Judkins. I've seen that kind of thing happen more than once historically without any formal adoption taking place. It would therefore be possible, I think, for one of John's male line descendants to have Y-DNA that matches a Basket surname.

The other census information for John Judkins is as follows:

John Judkins and Martha J. Nesbit were married 16 May 1858 in Clark County Arkansas.

1860 Clark County Arkansas, Missouri Township, p. 14
Household 88/89
John Judkins,25,Farmer,400,350,Ala
Marthy J ",19,Miss
Elizabeth C ",1,Ark
George H Weaver?,20,Hirelin,100,Ala
[I've seen this household indexed as Jukkins and Gudkins]

1870 Navarro County Texas, Spring Hill PO, p. 76
Household 252/252
Judkins Jno,37,Carpenter,Ala
" M J,28,K House,Miss
" C E,11,Ark
" M A,9,Texas
" T A M,6/12,Texas
" Ch,24,Ala
[I think Ch must have been Charles Judkins, s/o Charles G Judkins]

1880 Bell County Texas, Precinct 4, p. 369
Household 398/417
Judkins J,42?,Farmer,Ala,Ala,Geo
Marty,33?,Wife,Keeping House,Ark,Mo?,Mo?

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