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Re: Families of J Lemmie Bice
Posted by: Joan E. Rambo (ID *****8863) Date: June 19, 2005 at 13:00:32
In Reply to: Families of J Lemmie Bice by Donald Taylor of 65481

1880 census Red River Co, TX:

Category: Name; Relationship to head of household; Marital Status; Gender; Race; Age; Birthplace; Occupation; Father's Birthplace; Mother's Birthplace.

Thomas J. BICE Self M Male W 30 GA Farmer GA GA
Sallie BICE Wife M Female W 25 GA House Keeper GA GA
Lemmie BICE Dau S Female W 12 GA At School GA GA
Sarah G. BICE Dau S Female W 10 GA At School GA GA
Alice BICE Dau S Female W 5 LA GA GA
Ida BICE Dau S Female W 4 TX GA GA
Mary L. BICE Dau S Female W 2 TX GA GA
Sam LYERS Other S Male W 22 MO Laborer MO MO
[Looks like family went from GA to "LA" to TX, and I'm guessing Sallie is a second wife, note gap in age between Sarah and Alice. Lemmie and Sarah are probably daughters of the first wife.]

Butler is in Taylor Co, GA. See what I found on censuses in neighboring Macon Co, GA.

1860 census Macon Co, GA:

Bice, John C., 33, b GA - land 4,000/personal 11,650
" Sarah, 31, b GA
" Elizabeth, 11, b GA
" Thomas J., 10, b GA [probably same Thomas J. from 1880]
" Joseph H., 8, b GA
" Gilly V., 7, b GA
" Frances A., 5, b GA
" Caswell J., 3, b GA
Anderson, Mary A., 18, b GA
[From value of personal property I would assume John owned slaves.]

1870 census Macon Co, GA page 539:

Bice, Jerry, 20, b GA - no land value shown/personal 300
" Nannee, 21, b GA [first wife]
" Lemmie, 2, b GA
[Name of wife not clear, you might want to check out the handwriting yourself. Now you can see where the Jerry came from in name of Ben Jerry -- Lemmie's father.]

I believe I found John C. Bice (44 b GA) listed on bottom of page 536, but the beginning of the next page lists several young children with different surnames. John's land 3,000, but personal now drops to 700, another indication he formerly owned slaves.]

Using archived site for Taylor Co, GA GenWeb:

Land 1866-1873 Land sold to John C. Bice

Court record 1866:

Petition of John C. BICE sheweth that Monroe a Freedboy about 16 years and Betsy a freed minor girl about 12 are now on his premises without means of support.
Requests be bound to him until they are 21 and 18 respectively. Agreed with terms and to give Monroe $100 and Betsy $50 at end of indenture. If put to any unneccesary trouble, can deduct from this amount. John C. BICE

1867:

It appearing upn investigation that the order of the Court issued Oct 1866 for the binding of freed children Monroe, Mason and Betsey to Mr. J.C. Bice were illegal in as much that Monroe and Mason were upwards of 14 years of age and did not select the said J.C. BICE as their master or Guardian and that said Betsy has a parent living whose consent was not obtained to the binding, and moreover it appearing that ll of the said freed children were able to earn their own livelyhood. The order binding them out is hereby revoked. Butler, April 19, 1867 Jerome B. Davenport Agen Bureau R F W A S

*Although Mason is not mentioned in the first indenture, the paper revoking the indenture is inserted over another indenture that may very will be one for Mason.
[Above records copied and pasted, spelling etc as was shown on the GenWeb site.]

I think I would check out records for both Taylor and Macon Co, GA. Looks "interesting." Looks like John was trying to hang on to those young freed slaves a little longer. Probably more to be found in those county records. Maybe you can find marriage for John C. and his son Thomas J. and learn maiden names of their wives.

See what the Family History Library has filmed for those counties, you can get those films out to your local Family History Center to view them yourself.

Happy Huntng (^_^)






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