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Re: Help with Gilberts from Texas
Posted by: Joan E. Rambo (ID *****8863) Date: October 20, 2004 at 11:24:46
In Reply to: Help with Gilberts from Texas by Don Gilbert of 65474

Do you know when and where any of Joseph's children were born? This might help us narrow down the search. Here are a couple of "possibles," but name of Joseph's wife is not Mary, so may not be your family. I do believe the Joseph on the 1930 census is the son of Benn on the 1900 census. But, I cannot find the family in between to see if there are any other "clues." No Gilberts on 1910 or 1920 in IN that were born in TX. Town of Gilmer is in Upshur Co, TX.

1930 census Upshur Co, TX:

Gilbert, Joseph C., hd, 32, md @ 19 yrs of age, b TX, TX, AR
" Hattie R., wf, 34, md @ 21 yrs of age, b AL, AL, AL
" V. Oline, dau, 12, b TX
" M. Odell, son, 11, b TX
" Neil, son, 9, b TX
" Waldon C., dau, 6, b TX
" Nell R., son, 3 9/12, b TX
[Name of Hattie not real clear, could be Hettie]

1900 census Upshur Co, TX:

Gilbert, Benn(sic), hd, b Jun 1869, 30, md 3 yrs, b TX, TN, TN
" Annie, wf, b Jan 1881, 19, md 3 yrs, 2 ch, 2 lvg, b AR, MS, MS
" Joseph, s, b Oct 1897, 2, b TX
" (Mansac ?), s, b May 1899, 1, b TX
[Name of second son not clear]

In case you are unfamiliar with censues:

b = born
md = married
md @ = age first time married
hd = head of household
wf = wife
s = son
d = daughter
2 ch, 2 lvg = means she gave birth to 2 children, and 2 are living at the time of the census.
sic = abbreviation for Latin term which means "as shown" in other words not my typo (this time anyway.)
Where line shows b, TX, TX, AR, that means the person listed was born TX, father was born TX, mother was born AR.

I did a quick check on your message history and see you think Joseph was married twice, so maybe the above Joseph C. Gilbert is your man. Do you know about when your Joseph married Mary?

As for your Daltons, the following will show you Willam's middle name and his parents.

1860 census Washington Co, IN:

Dalton, George N., 51, b KY - land 800/personal 650
" Nancy, 47, b E. TN
" Henry A., 19, b IN
" Nathaniel W., 17, b IN
" Sarie H., 16, b IN
" Nicholas, 11, b IN
" Nancy J., 10, b IN
" Wm. Riley, 8, b IN
" Laura Ann, 5, b IN

My husband was really into the outlaws and the old West, be careful when trying to make a connection to the Dalton Gang family. You will find lots of discrepancies in any of them, such as the James or Youngers. You know the mother of the Dalton brothers was a Younger. I noticed one fellow mentioned a Dalton alive in 1940, he wouldn't have been the brother Frank. He died while working for Judge Isaac Parker, the "Hanging Judge." Emmett was the only one to survive the Coffeyville, KS raid. He served time and later went to CA, wrote a book etc. My husband and I visited Coffeyville and the Dalton Museum there, too. The History Channel just showed a program on the Daltons, they usually show those over a few times, catch it if you can, pretty good. They used the actual Condon Bank for some of the shots, it now is a museum, also.

Now, if you promise not to jump to conculsions, go to the Rootsweb World Connect site, type in George Dalton, b 1809, plus or minus 5 years, spouse Nancy and you will see several people working on that couple. I warn you some will copy from each other and never check out sources. Be sure to find source for any information they post. I know from experience and am trying to pull source out of those who have posted info on one of my families. Everyone copied from someone else, but it does look like the lines to go back to Pittsylvania Co, VA -- be careful. (^_^)

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi

Any questions let me know, I'll try to help (^_^)



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