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As mentioned in my followup to an earlier posted message - Subject - James Turnbull , Airth >Kirkintilloch , which see ---I am here posting an AMALGAMATION of other Turnbull';s of the same or similar generation & in the same area- to that of my gt gt grandfather James Turnbull of Letham , Airth, Stirlingshire to Springfield, Kirkintilloch,Dunbartonshire SCOTLAND
Modified Register for James or John prossibly Turnbull , of SA
First Generation
1. James or John prossibly Turnbull , of Stirlingshire area .
James married Janet prossibly .
They had the following children:
2 M i. James Turnbull , smith, auctioneer & Hotel keeper, Farmer, of Springfield was born about 1806 in Letham, Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland.
James married Margaret (Ann) Hutton , keeps lodgers on 21/27 Jul 1828.
+ 3 M ii. John added Turnbull , engineer was born about 1810. He died before 1891.
4 M iii. John added Turnbull , farmer was born about 1816 in Airth, Stirlingshire, Scot..
5 M iv. John added Turnbull , pattern filer was born about 1815 in Carron, Stirling.
6 M v. John added Turnbull , shipping master of Carronshore was born about 1800 in Tarturti, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
7 M vi. william added Turnbull , farmer was born about 1801 in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
8 F vii. margaret added Turnbull , Higgins Neuch Farm & Ferry was born about 1801 in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
9 F viii. christian added Turnbull , farmer was born in 1798 in Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland.
10 F ix. jean added Turnbull was born in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
Second Generation
3. John added Turnbull , engineer (James or John prossibly) was born about 1810 in Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland. He died before 1891.
John married (1) Catharine . Catharine was born about 1811 in Benhill, Dumbarton, Scotland.
They had the following children:
+ 11 F i. Jessie Turnbull was born about 1835.
+ 12 F ii. Catharine (Kate) Turnbull was born about 1838.
+ 13 F iii. dau Turnbull .
+ 14 M iv. John Turnbull , CE, Clynder Rosebank Cottage was born about 1842.
15 M v. Malcolm Turnbull was born about 1845 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
16 F vi. Agnes McDonald Turnbull was born in 1848 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Agnes married Robert C Munro on 28 Nov 1872 in 96 Renfield St. Robert was born about 1849 in Larnarksh..
John married (2) Agnes . Agnes was born about 1840 in Ayr, Ayrshire.
Third Generation
11. Jessie Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1835 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Jessie married Gilbert Roy ,oil mcht , Ailsa Lodge, Chorlton-cum-Hardy son of John Roy and Marion McKindle , of Kirkmichael on 27 Apr 1859 in 35 Porrt Dundas Rd. Gilbert was born about 1834 in Maybole, Ayrshire. He died in 1913 in Manchester, Lancs., ENG.
They had the following children:
17 F i. Catherine (Kate) Roy was born about 1860 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Catherine married Higson .
18 F ii. Marrion (Minnie) Roy was born about 1862 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Marrion married Edward Bayley , Fallowfield on 30 Apr 1890 in Cong Ch, , Chorlton-cum-Hardy,.
19 M iii. John Roy was born on 26 Jun 1863 in 137 New City Road, Glasgow.
John married Agnes McChlery .
20 M iv. Gilbert Malcolm Roy was born on 14 May 1865 in 137 New City Road, Glasgow.
Gilbert married Elsie Julie Palmer .
21 F v. Grace Roy was born about 1868 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
Grace married Robert Garrow .
+ 22 F vi. Agnes Roy was born about 1871.
12. Catharine (Kate) Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1838 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Catharine married David Gilmour Gilmore, bookkeeper son of Gilmour and Isabella , flesher about 1864. David was born about 1838 in Scotand.
They had the following children:
23 F i. Isabella Gilmour was born about 1865 in Liverpool, England.
+ 24 M ii. David Gilmour , of Johannesburg was born about 1868.
13. dau Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly).
dau married James Wright .
They had the following children:
25 M i. James Wright , architect was born about 1871 in England.
14. John Turnbull , CE, Clynder Rosebank Cottage (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1842 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
John married Elizabeth Lawrie or Margaret daughter of Lawrie.
They had the following children:
+ 26 M i. William Lawrie Turnbull was born about 1870. He died before 1915.
27 F ii. Catherine Turnbull was born about 1870. She died in May 1870.
28 M iii. Campbell Turnbull was born about 1873 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
29 M iv. Malcolm Turnbull was born about 1876 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
30 F v. Catherine Turnbull was born about 1878 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
31 F vi. Agnes McDonald Turnbull was born about 1880 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Fourth Generation
22. Agnes Roy (Jessie Turnbull, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1871 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
Agnes married David Gilmour , of Johannesburg son of David Gilmour Gilmore, bookkeeper and Catharine (Kate) Turnbull on 17 Dec 1895 in Cape Town, SA. David was born about 1868 in England.
They had the following children:
32 M i. Malcolm Turnbull Gilmour .
33 M ii. Benjamin Gilmour .
24. David Gilmour , of Johannesburg (Catharine (Kate) Turnbull, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1868 in England.
David married Agnes Roy daughter of Gilbert Roy ,oil mcht , Ailsa Lodge, Chorlton-cum-Hardy and Jessie Turnbull on 17 Dec 1895 in Cape Town, SA. Agnes was born about 1871 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
They had the following children:
34 M i. Malcolm Turnbull Gilmour is printed as #32 on page 5.
35 M ii. Benjamin Gilmour is printed as #33 on page 5.
26. William Lawrie Turnbull (John, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1870 in Glasgow, Larnarksh.. He died before 1915.
William married Lizzie ( Elizabeth) Kay daughter of James Kay , farmer and Jean McWhirter on 27 Sep 1895 in Cockburn Hotel, Bath St, Glasgow. Lizzie was born about 1873 in Straiton, Ayrshire.
They had the following children:
36 F i. Millicent Turnbull .
37 F ii. Jean Turnbull was born in 1905. She died in 1920.
38 M iii. John Turnbull , to Australia possibly .
AND Again With Notes -
Modified Register for James or John prossibly Turnbull , of SA
First Generation
1. James or John prossibly Turnbull , of Stirlingshire area .
Reference Title Date
GD26 Papers of the Leslie family, Earls of Leven and Melville 1200-1853
GD26/3 Writs for Sheriffdoms of Fife, Perth, Miscellaneous, Tacks of Teinds, Inventories of Writs
1446-1899
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Archives of Scotland
Reference GD26/3/615
Title Disposition and Assignation by Margaret Christisone [Christison], spouse of James Oliphant,
writer in Cupar, and only daughter of deceased James Christisone [Christison], burgess thereof, and
deceased Margaret Turnbull, his spouse, to David, Earl of Leven, of annualrent of £24 from town and
lands of Letham under reversion of 600 merks as in heritable bond dated 2 May 1687, by Mr. James
Spens [Spence], portioner of Letham, to said Margaret Turnbull. In dorso: Judicial Ratification
thereof by said Margaret Christisone, dated 29 February 1712.
Dates 29/2/1712
Access status Open
Level File
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Thursday,
May 15, 1800; Issue 12270
Arrived at Leith Jamie & Jennie from Carron , goods
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Thursday,
April 15, 1802; Issue 12573
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LEITH IMPORTS AND EXPORTS _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Thursday, March 24,
1814; Issue 14397
Arrived , ,...Eliza, Turnbull, Carron , Cast Iron -
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Saturday,
October 26, 1811; Issue 14019
Arrived , ,...Eliza, Turnbull, Carron ,goods
EDINBURGH CORN MARKET—APRIL 29 _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Thursday,
April 30, 1818; Issue 15065
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No Surname Forename Date Description Type Court Reference Image
1 Turnbull Janet 17/05/1833 residing at Letham, in parish of Airth, died at Drum, kin of Margaret
Turnbull Merklejohn Inventory Stirling Sheriff Court SC67/36/14
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2 Turnbull Thomas 07/09/1791 tenant in Letham, parish of Airth Stirling Commissary Court CC21/6/
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Another Possible connection??
Thomas Tambull Robt, Jane abt 1819 Pelton, Durham, England Head Birtley Durham
Jane Tambull Thomas abt 1826 Tanfield, Durham, England Wife Birtley Durham
Dorothy Jane Tambull Thomas, Jane abt 1853 Birtley, Durham, England Daughter Birtley Durham
Robt Tambull Thomas, Jane abt 1856 Birtley, Durham, England Son Birtley Durham
John Willm Tambull Thomas, Jane abt 1859 Birtley, Durham, England Son Birtley Durham
Thomas Tambull Thomas,Jane abt 1862 Birtley, Durham, England Son Birtley Durham
Sarah Tambull Thomas, Jane abt 1864 Birtley, Durham, England Daughter Birtley Durham <
Robt Tambull abt 1793 Chester-Le-Street, Durham, England Father Birtley Durham
James married Janet prossibly .
Reference Title Date
GD58 Records of the Carron Company, ironfounders, engineers, coalmasters and shipowners,
Carron, Falkirk 1478-1980
GD58/8 Miscellaneous Documents Concerning the Operations and Administration of the Company
(Including Mineral Leases) 1707-1891
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Archives of Scotland
Reference GD58/8/2
Title Bundle of tacks, contracts and related documents brief details of the former being undernoted
Dates 1749-1835
Access status Open
Description 1726 Granter(s): Earl of Kincardine; Grantee(s): Arthur Forbes of Pittencrieff;
Subjects: Wester Rosyth. 1749; Granter(s): Sir James Livingstone of Glentirran, Bt.; Grantee(s):
George Galbraith; Subjects: Dalderse. 1752; Granter(s): Sir James Livingstone of Glentirran, Bt.;
Grantee(s): Henry Masterton; Subjects: Dalderse. 1760; Granter(s): Duke of Hamilton's tutors;
Grantee(s): Dr. John Roebuck, John Glassford; Subjects: Coal and salt works at Bo'ness. 1763;
Granter(s): Earl of Elgin; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Ironstone at Wester Rosyth 1771;
Granter(s): William Belchier of Grange, George Thomson; Grantee(s): John Beaumont; Subjects:
Coal at Grange. 1772; Granter(s): John Beaumont, William Cadell, jun., John Cadell; Grantee(s):
Carron Company; Subjects: Ironstone at Grange. 1775; Granter(s): Thomas Dundas [of Fingask];
Grantee(s): Agnes Grosart; Subjects: Letham. 1778; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s):
Thomas Stewart; Subjects: Carron Inn. 1778; Granter(s): Thomas Dundas of Fingask; Grantee(s):
David Smart; Subjects: Letham. 1778; Granter(s): Thomas Dundas of Fingask; Grantee(s): Thomas
Grosart; Subjects: Letham. 1779; Granter(s): Lord Cathcart's commissioners; Grantee(s): Carron
Company; Subjects: Ironstone at Sauchie. 1783; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): James
Thomson, Alexander Bryson; Subjects: Bonnyside. 1789; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s):
Patrick Bennet; Subjects: Raising of ironstone at Whiteside. 1789; Granter(s): Thomas Dundas [of
Fingask]; Grantee(s): Widow Turnbull; Subjects: Letham. 1792-95; Granter(s): Carron Company;
Grantee(s): John Andrew, John Sommervell; Subjects: Working of ironstone at Grange. 1792;
Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): George Potter; Subjects: Mills of Dunipace. 1796; Granter
(s): Robert Campbell; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Ironstone at Deepstairs. 1796; Granter
(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): John Wilson; Subjects: Raising of ironstone at Borbachlay. 1796;
Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): George Kincaid; Subjects: Working of ironstone at Kincaid.
1799; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): John Kincaid of Kincaid; Subjects: Working of
ironstone at Kincaid. 1799; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): Thomas Easton, Alexander
Brownlee; Subjects: Making and maintaining Drove Loan Road. 1800; Granter(s): Thomas Dundas
of Fingask's tutors; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Coal at Quarrole. 1800; Granter(s):
James Stirling of Keir; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Timber at Keir. 1800; Granter(s):
Carron Company; Grantee(s): John Angus; Subjects: Working of ironstone at Balwharrage. 1800;
Granter(s): Sir William Bruce of Stenhouse, Bt.; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Coal at
Stenhouse. 1801; Granter(s): James Hay of Herves Melleng; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects:
Ironstone at Herves Melling. 1801; Granter(s): Carron Company; Grantee(s): John Gentles; Subjects:
Mills of Dunipace. 1814; Granter(s): John Ogilvie of Gairdoch; Grantee(s): Carron Company;
Subjects: Coal at Carronside. 1833; Granter(s): William Forbes of Callendar; Grantee(s): Carron
Company; Subjects: Coal, ironstone and fireclay on estate of Callendar. 1835; Granter(s): William
Forbes of Callendar; Grantee(s): Carron Company; Subjects: Houses at Bentend. 1835; Granter(s):
John George Home Drummond of Milnearn and Abbotsgrange; Grantee(s): Carron Company;
Subjects: Coal, ironstone and lands of Reddingrig Muir.
Level File
Extent
James and Janet had the following children:
2 M i. James Turnbull , smith, auctioneer & Hotel keeper, Farmer, of Springfield was born about 1806 in Letham, Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland.
SEE his family elsewhere POSTED
James married Margaret (Ann) Hutton , keeps lodgers on 21/27 Jul 1828.
+ 3 M ii. John added Turnbull , engineer was born about 1810. He died before 1891.
4 M iii. John added Turnbull , farmer was born about 1816 in Airth, Stirlingshire, Scot..
1861 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080&
enc=1> _about John Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Christena
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 481
Registration district: Gargunnock
Civil Parish: Gargunnock
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Crawtree Leckie
Occupation: Farmer Fo 124 Acres Employing 3 Labourers
1871 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1104&
enc=1> _about John Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Christina
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirling
Registration Number: 374
Registration district: Logie
Civil Parish: Logie
County: Perthshire
Address: Manor Neuck Farm
Occupation: Farmer Of 149 Ac Arable Employing 3 Men
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&
enc=1> _about John Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirling
Registration Number: 374
Registration district: Logie
Civil Parish: Logie
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: Manor Neuck Farm
Occupation: Farmer Of 150 Acres All Arable Employing 3 Men & 1 Boy
5 M iv. John added Turnbull , pattern filer was born about 1815 in Carron, Stirling.
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&
enc=1> _about John Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Joan
Gender: Male
Where born: Carron, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
Town: Falkirk
County: Stirlingshire
Address: No 48 Grainary Sq.
Occupation: Pattern Filer
6 M v. John added Turnbull , shipping master of Carronshore was born about 1800 in Tarturti, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
John Turnbull Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Helen Gender: Male Where born: Tarturti, Stirlingshire Parish
Number: 485 Civil Parish: Larbert Town: Carronshore County: Stirlingshire
Occupation: Ship Master ED: 5 Page: </cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=
5538&db=1851Scotland&F0=CSSCT1851_102-0181&F7=5> (click to see others
on page) Household schedule number: 20 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1851_102
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239302> 22
David Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239305> 5
Helen Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239301> 50
Janet Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239304> 7
John Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239300> 51
Margret Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1851Scotland&
indiv=try&h=1239303> 20
7 M vi. william added Turnbull , farmer was born about 1801 in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
1841 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1004&
enc=1> _about William Turnbull
Name: William Turnbull
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Airth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: West Mains Of Powyoules
Occupation: Farmer
Parish Number: 469
Neighbors: View others on page </cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=
5538&db=1841Scotland&F0=CSSCT1841_66-0033&F9=4>
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976614> 10
Alexr Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976608> 20
Christian Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976615> 4
Elizabeth Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976609> 20
Janet Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976610> 15
Janet Sharp Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976607> 40
Robert Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976612> 15
Thomas Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976613> 12
William Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976606> 40
William Turnbull <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=
1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=1976611>
1851 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1076&
enc=1> _about Janet Turnbull
Name: Janet Turnbull
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Parish Number: 469
Civil Parish: Airth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Mains Powfonlis
Occupation: Farmer (of 70 Acres, 1 Boy)
1861 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080&
enc=1> _about Janet Turnbull
Name: Janet Turnbull
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 469
Registration district: Airth
Civil Parish: Airth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Powfontis
Occupation: Farmers Widow
8 F vii. margaret added Turnbull , Higgins Neuch Farm & Ferry was born about 1801 in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
1841 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1004&
enc=1> _about Margaret Turnbull
Name: Margaret Turnbull
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Airth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Higgins Neuch Farm & Ferry
William Graham Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born:
Stirlingshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Airth County: Stirlingshire Address: Higgins
Neuch Farm & Ferry Occupation: Farmer
9 F viii. christian added Turnbull , farmer was born in 1798 in Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland.
1861 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080&
enc=1> _about Christian Turnbull
Name: Christian Turnbull
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 476
Registration district: Denny
Civil Parish: Denny
County: Stirlingshire
Address: North Bankhead
Occupation: Farmer
10 F ix. jean added Turnbull was born in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
1861 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080&
enc=1> _about Jean Turnbull
Name: Jean Turnbull
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 485
Registration district: Larbert
Civil Parish: Larbert
County: Stirlingshire
Occupation: Mustin Sewer
Second Generation
3. John added Turnbull , engineer (James or John prossibly) was born about 1810 in Airth, Stirlingsh., Scotland. He died before 1891.
Possible sibling
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/TURNBULL/1998-01/0885245429
1851 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1076&enc=1> _about John
Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 36 Port Dundas Road
Occupation: Engineer (master Emp 48 Man 20 App)
Catharine Turnbull Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female Where born: Benhill, Dumbarton Parish Number: 622 Civil Parish: Barony County:
Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road
Jessie Turnbull Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road
Margaret Turnbull Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name:
John Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number:
622 Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: Scholar
Catharine Turnbull Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name:
John Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number:
622 Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: Scholar
John Turnbull Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: Scholar
Malcolm Turnbull Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: Scholar
Agnes Turnbull Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catharine Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number: 622
Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36 Port Dundas Road
Robert Littlejohn Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where
born: Glasgow, Lanark Parish Number: 622 Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 36
Port Dundas Road Occupation: Engineers App
Elizabeth Steven Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relationship: Visitor Gender: Female
Where born: Arbroath, Forfar Parish Number: 622 Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire Address:
36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: Dressmaker
Catharine Cameron Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Parish Number: 622 Civil Parish: Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 36 Port Dundas Road Occupation: House Serv
1871
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 61 Estimated
Birth Year: abt 1810
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirling
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 96
Occupation: Engineer & Jun Masker Employing 249 Man & 40 Boys
ED: 28 Page: </cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=5538&db=1871Scotland&F0=
CSSCT1871_133-0916&F7=6> (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 34 Line:
12 Roll: CSSCT1871_133 Household Members:
Catherine Gilmour_[Catherine Turnbull] Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship:
Daughter Father's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number:
644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address:
96 Occupation: Housekeeper
Isabella Gilmour Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Scholar
David Gilmour Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Grandson Gender: Male Where
born: England Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow
Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96
Catherine Roy Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district:
Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Scholar
Agnes Turnbull Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Housekeeper Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil
Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Housekeeper
==================
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&enc=1> _about John
Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St
Occupation: Retired Mechanic Engineer
Agnes Turnbull Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Wife [dau??] Spouse's name :
John Gender: Female Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district:
Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St
Kate Gilmour_[Kate Turnbull] Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Daughter Father's
Name: John Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County:
Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath
Isabella Gilmour Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Grandaughter
(Granddaughter) Mother's Name: Kate Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, England Registration
Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Teacher School
Elizabeth Baxter Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female
Where born: Slamanan, Stirlingshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil
Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: General Servant
William Moon Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where
born: Hampshire, England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish:
Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Apprentice Mechanic
====================
Advertisements & Notices _Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Thursday, February 18, 1847;
Issue 19651
National Bank SCotlanfd David T writer to the signet
The Times, Tuesday, Feb 07, 1899; pg. 1; Issue 35746; col A _Deaths 4 Feb 1899 Curriehill house,
Midlothian
Mary T w of David T WS dau of late Allan Gilmour of Lundin & Montrave, Fife
The Times, Tuesday, Oct 31, 1939; pg. 9; Issue 48450; col B _Marriages
son J Watson Turcan dau of late Harry Cheyne & (Mrs) Major F P ) Wye of of Curriehill House
Balerno, Midlothian
Major & Mrs P Turnbull
John married (1) Catharine . Catharine was born about 1811 in Benhill, Dumbarton, Scotland.
They had the following children:
+ 11 F i. Jessie Turnbull was born about 1835.
+ 12 F ii. Catharine (Kate) Turnbull was born about 1838.
+ 13 F iii. dau Turnbull .
+ 14 M iv. John Turnbull , CE, Clynder Rosebank Cottage was born about 1842.
15 M v. Malcolm Turnbull was born about 1845 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
16 F vi. Agnes McDonald Turnbull was born in 1848 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
1881
1891 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1108&
enc=1> _about Agnes Munro
Name: Agnes Munro
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Step - Daur (Step Daughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St
Occupation: Living on Private Means
Agnes Turnbull Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Head
Gender: Female Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Living on Private Means
Kate Gilmour Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Step - Daur
(Step Daughter) Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration
Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County:
Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Living on Private Means
Isabella Gilmour Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Step - Gran
- Daur Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Elementary School Mistress
Geo Wright Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Step - Gran -
Son Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration
district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231
Bath St Occupation: Civil Engineer
James Wright Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relationship: Step - Gran -
Son Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration
district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231
Bath St Occupation: Architect Apprentice
Isabella Beaton Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Serv
(Servant) Gender: Female Where born: Dingwall, Rossshire Registration Number:
644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County:
Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Domestic Serv
Agnes married Robert C Munro on 28 Nov 1872 in 96 Renfield St. Robert was born about 1849 in Larnarksh..
FROM LAST NIGHTS GAZETTE _Daily News (London, England), Saturday,
November 21, 1863; Issue 5472
Joseph John T , merchants clk Cheetham
1881
26 Russel St
Joseph Talkington Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire,
England Civil Parish: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: 26 Russel Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:__Employment status:
Occupation: Commercial Clerk Egypt Registration district: Prestwich Sub
registration district: Cheetham
Sarah Talkington Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's
Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England Civil
Parish: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 26
Russel Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Dressmaker
Robert Munro Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Lodger Gender:
Male Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham County/Island:
Lancashire Country: England Street address: 26 Russel Street Condition as to
marriage: Married
Education:__Employment status:
Occupation: Traveller Leather Registration district: Prestwich Sub registration
district: Cheetham
Agnes Munro Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Lodger Gender:
Female Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham County/Island:
Lancashire Country: England Street address: 26 Russel Street Condition as to
marriage: Married
John married (2) Agnes . Agnes was born about 1840 in Ayr, Ayrshire.
1891 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1108&enc=1> _about
Agnes Turnbull
Name: Agnes Turnbull
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St
Occupation: Living on Private Means
1891 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1108&enc=1> _about
Agnes Munro
Name: Agnes Munro
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Step - Daur (Step Daughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St
Occupation: Living on Private Means
Agnes Turnbull Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where
born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow
Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Living on Private Means
Kate Gilmour Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Step - Daur (Step Daughter)
Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district:
Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Living
on Private Means
Isabella Gilmour Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Step - Gran - Daur Gender:
Female Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish:
Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Elementary School Mistress
Geo Wright Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Step - Gran - Son Gender: Male
Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow
Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Civil Engineer
James Wright Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relationship: Step - Gran - Son Gender: Male
Where born: England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow
Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Architect Apprentice
Isabella Beaton Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Serv (Servant) Gender:
Female Where born: Dingwall, Rossshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Domestic Serv
1901 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1101&enc=1> _about
Agnes Turnbull
Name: Agnes Turnbull
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/7
Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Blythswood
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 172 Pitt Street
1901 SCOTLAND
Rose Taylor Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where
born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/7 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish:
Glasgow Blythswood County: Lanarkshire Address: 172 Pitt Street
Jane Taylor Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name:
Rose Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/7 Registration
district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Blythswood County: Lanarkshire Address: 172 Pitt Street
Occupation: Lawyers Typist
Jane Taylor Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name:
Rose Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/7 Registration
district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Blythswood County: Lanarkshire Address: 172 Pitt Street
Occupation: Lawyers Typist
Agnes Turnbull Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Visitor Gender: Female Where
born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/7 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish:
Glasgow Blythswood County: Lanarkshire Address: 172 Pitt Street
Third Generation
11. Jessie Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1835 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Jessie married Gilbert Roy ,oil mcht , Ailsa Lodge, Chorlton-cum-Hardy son of John Roy and Marion McKindle , of Kirkmichael on 27 Apr 1859 in 35 Porrt Dundas Rd. Gilbert was born about 1834 in Maybole, Ayrshire. He died in 1913 in Manchester, Lancs., ENG.
http://www.cousinconnect.com/d/a/177708
Date Posted:
10-Jul-2008
Surname(s):
BAYLEY </p/a/0/s/BAYLEY> : GARROW </p/a/0/s/GARROW> : GILMOUR </p/a/0/s/GILMOUR> :
HIGSON </p/a/0/s/HIGSON> : ROY </p/a/0/s/ROY>
Query Text:
Descendants of Gilbert ROY b.1834 Maybole,AYR, d.1913 Manchester. m.Jessie TURNBULL,
Glasgow. Partner in Colledge,Roy & Co, Oil merchants and refiners in Redbank. Children: Kate m.
HIGSON, Minnie m. Edward Bayley, John m. Agnes McCHLERY, Gilbert Malcolm m. Elsie Julia
PALMER, Grace m. Robert GARROW, Agnes m.David GILMOUR. Sons Malcolm Turnbull and
Benjamin; unmarried.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, February 29,
1856; Issue 5574
Mrs Wm Kay of 42 Port Dundas Rd a son 27/2/1856
1861 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1080&enc=1> _about
Gilbert Roy
Name: Gilbert Roy
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jessie
Gender: Male
Where born: Maybole, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Central District
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 42 Port Dundas Rd
Occupation: Hardware Commeranl Traveller
ED: 101
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_97
Jessie Roy Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Gilbert
Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district:
Central District Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 42 Port Dundas Rd
Catherine Roy Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Gilbert
Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Central District Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 42
Port Dundas Rd
Barbara Roy Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Sister Gender: Female Where
born: Maybole, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Central District Civil Parish:
Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 42 Port Dundas Rd Occupation: Dress Maker
1871 England Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7619&enc=1> _about
Gilbert Roy
Name: Gilbert Roy
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Cheetham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral
Town: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 55 Lord st
Occupation: oil mercant
Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image <http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&
r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=LANRG10_4061_4063-0044&fn=Gilbert&ln=Roy&st=r&ssrc=&pid=
17896349>
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Cheetham
Jessie Roy Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Gilbert Gender:
Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town:
Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Marrion Roy Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Gilbert
Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical
parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
John Roy Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's Name: Gilbert Mother's
Name: Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish:
Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Gilbert Roy Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: Gilbert Mother's
Name: Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish:
Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Agnes Roy Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Gilbert
Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:
Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country:
England
Grace Roy Age: 3 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Gilbert
Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:
Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island: Lancashire Country:
England
David Gilmore Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born:
Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island:
Lancashire Country: England
The Times, Wednesday, Jul 31, 1935; pg. 9; Issue 47130; col G _News in Brief
The Times, Tuesday, Jul 22, 1947; pg. 7; Issue 50819; col F _Maxima Lubricants Limited _Category:
Business and Finance
Gilbert and Jessie had the following children:
17 F i. Catherine (Kate) Roy was born about 1860 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Catherine married Higson .
18 F ii. Marrion (Minnie) Roy was born about 1862 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland),
Tuesday, May 6, 1890; Issue 108
Marrion married Edward Bayley , Fallowfield on 30 Apr 1890 in Cong Ch, , Chorlton-cum-Hardy,.
19 M iii. John Roy was born on 26 Jun 1863 in 137 New City Road, Glasgow.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland),
Saturday, June 27, 1863; Issue 73
John married Agnes McChlery .
20 M iv. Gilbert Malcolm Roy was born on 14 May 1865 in 137 New City Road, Glasgow.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland),
Monday, May 15, 1865; Issue 7910
THE WAR IN AMERICA _The Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Tuesday,
May 16, 1865; Issue 23674
Gilbert married Elsie Julie Palmer .
21 F v. Grace Roy was born about 1868 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
Grace married Robert Garrow .
+ 22 F vi. Agnes Roy was born about 1871.
12. Catharine (Kate) Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1838 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
1871
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 61 Estimated
Birth Year: abt 1810
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirling
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 96
Occupation: Engineer & Jun Masker Employing 249 Man & 40 Boys
ED: 28 Page: </cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=5538&db=1871Scotland&F0=
CSSCT1871_133-0916&F7=6> (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 34 Line:
12 Roll: CSSCT1871_133 Household Members:
Catherine Gilmour_[Catherine Turnbull] Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship:
Daughter Father's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number:
644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address:
96 Occupation: Housekeeper
Isabella Gilmour Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Scholar
David Gilmour Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Grandson Gender: Male Where
born: England Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow
Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96
Catherine Roy Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district:
Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Scholar
Agnes Turnbull Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Housekeeper Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/6 Registration district: Blythswood Civil
Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 96 Occupation: Housekeeper
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&enc=1> _about John
Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Airth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St
Occupation: Retired Mechanic Engineer
Agnes Turnbull Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Wife [dau??] Spouse's name :
John Gender: Female Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district:
Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St
Kate Gilmour_[Kate Turnbull] Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Daughter Father's
Name: John Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County:
Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath
Isabella Gilmour Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Grandaughter
(Granddaughter) Mother's Name: Kate Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, England Registration
Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Teacher School
Elizabeth Baxter Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female
Where born: Slamanan, Stirlingshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil
Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: General Servant
William Moon Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where
born: Hampshire, England Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil Parish:
Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 231 Bath St Occupation: Apprentice Mechanic
Catharine married David Gilmour Gilmore, bookkeeper son of Gilmour and Isabella , flesher about 1864. David was born about 1838 in Scotand.
1871
David Gilmore Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born:
Scotland Civil Parish: Cheetham Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral Town: Cheetham County/Island:
Lancashire Country: England
1881 England Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572&enc=1> _about
Joseph E. Ham
Name: Joseph E. Ham
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann S.
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 130 Hamilton Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: Employment status: View Image <http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&
r=5538&dbid=7572&iid=LANRG11_3667_3671-0852&fn=Joseph+E.&ln=Ham&st=r&ssrc=&pid=
9065205>
Occupation: Printer (Compositor)
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Everton
Ann S. Ham Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph E.
Gender: Female Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Everton County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England Street address: 130 Hamilton Rd Condition as to marriage: Married
Emily J. Ham Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph E.
Mother's Name: Ann S. Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:
Everton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 130 Hamilton Rd
Robert Gilmour Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born:
Scotland Civil Parish: Everton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 130
Hamilton Rd
Education:__Employment status:
Occupation: Clerk Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Everton
unm
David Gilmour Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born:
Scotland Civil Parish: Everton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 130
Hamilton Rd
Education:__Employment status:
Occupation: Clerk Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Everton
unm
David and Catharine had the following children:
23 F i. Isabella Gilmour was born about 1865 in Liverpool, England.
+ 24 M ii. David Gilmour , of Johannesburg was born about 1868.
13. dau Turnbull (John added, James or John prossibly).
dau married James Wright .
James and dau had the following children:
25 M i. James Wright , architect was born about 1871 in England.
DSA Architect Biography Report (August 26, 2008, 11:09 pm)
Basic Biographical Details
Name: James Wright (junior)
Designation: Architect
Born: 1871
Died:
Bio Notes: James Wright (Junior) was born in England in 1871, the son of James
Wright. He commenced his architectural training in September 1887, spending the
following two years partly in the office of A & A Heiton of Perth, partly in
engineering work in Glasgow, and partly in study. In November 1889 he began an
articled apprenticeship with John James Burnet, who was then in partnership with
James Archibald Campbell as Burnet Son & Campbell. He studied at the Glasgow
and West of Scotland Technical College and at the Glasgow School of Art from
1890 to 1892, during which time he was living with his older civil engineer brother
George (born c. 1868) at 231 Bath Street, the house of his step-grandmother
Agnes Turnbull. He remained with the same firm as draughtsman until 1908 when
he commenced independent practice.
He was admitted LRIBA in the mass intake of 20 July 1911, proposed by John
Bennie Wilson and the Glasgow Institute of Architects. His travels prior to that time
had been limited to Scotland and England, and at that time he still appears to have
been based in the same offices as Burnet's firm. By 1914 his office was at 261
West George Street, where he remained until at least 1930. Shortly thereafter he
relocated his office to Stirling, where he continued to practise until at least 1939.
Private and Business Addresses
The following private or business addresses are associated with this architect:
Address Type Date from Date to Notes
231, Bath Street, Glasgow, Scotland Private 1890 *
219, St Vincent Street, Glasgow, Scotland Business 1911 *
23, Carnarvon Street, Charing Cross, Glasgow, Scotland Private 1911 *
261, West George Street, Glasgow, Scotland Business Before 1914 After 1931(?)
27, Albert Place, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland Business Before 1934 After 1939
* earliest date known from documented sources.
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Employment and Training
Employers
The following individuals or organisations employed or trained this architect (click
on an item to view details):
Name Date from Date to Position Notes
John Burnet & Son 1897 1908 Assistant
Burnet Son & Campbell November 1889 c. 1894(?) Apprentice
Burnet Son & Campbell c. 1894(?) 1897 Assistant
Andrew Heiton (junior) September 1887 Before November 1889 Apprentice(?)
Employees or Pupils
The following individuals were employed or trained by this architect (click on an
item to view details):
Name Date from Date to Position Notes
Robert McMillan Clive 1922 1927 Apprentice
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RIBA
RIBA Proposers
The following individuals proposed this architect for RIBA membership (click on an
item to view details):
Name Date proposed Notes
John Bennie Wilson for Licentiateship - as President of the Glasgow Institute of
Architects
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Buildings and Designs
This architect was involved with the following buildings or structures from the date
specified (click on an item to view details):
Date started Building name Town, district or village Island City or county Country
Notes
After 1889 New house Whiting Bay Arran Bute Scotland As assistant to John
James Burnet
1893 Feuing at Whiting Bay Whiting Bay Arran Bute Scotland Feuing plan - as
assistant to John James Burnet
1894 Glasgow Stock Exchange Glasgow Scotland Extension in St George's
Place - as assistant to John James Burnet
1894 Kirklee Station Glasgow Scotland As assistant to John James Burnet
1895 Glasgow Cross Station Glasgow Scotland As assistant to John James
Burnet
1896 Kelvinside Station Glasgow Scotland As assistant to John James Burnet
1898 Finlaystone House Langbank Renfrewshire Scotland Reconstruction,
extension, decorative work, stable offices and entrance - as assistant to John
James Burnet
1898 Glasgow Royal Asylum for Lunatics, entrance lodge & gateway Glasgow
Scotland As assistant to John James Burnet
1900 Glasgow Royal Asylum for Lunatics, piggeries Glasgow Scotland As
assistant to John James Burnet
After 1900 Ingliston Bishopton Renfrewshire Scotland Additions and alterations -
as assistant to John James Burnet
1904 Glasgow Stock Exchange Glasgow Scotland Additions/reconstruction - as
assistant to John James Burnet
1907 Glasgow Royal Asylum for Lunatics Glasgow Scotland Additions to south
wing of east house - as assistant to John James Burnet
After 1908 Cornhill House, cottage and north lodge Biggar Lanarkshire Scotland
New drainage system and septic tank
After 1908 Glasgow Stock Exchange Glasgow Scotland Alterations
After 1908 Petrol store and office Keppochhill Glasgow Scotland
After 1908 Shop, 331 Sauchiehall Street Glasgow Scotland Alterations
After 1909 Coulter School Coulter Lanarkshire Scotland In collaboration with
William Arthur Laurie Carrick
After 1909 Public Hall and Library Symington Lanarkshire Scotland In
collaboration with William Arthur Laurie Carrick
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References
Bibliographic References
The following books contain references to this architect:
Author(s) Date Title Part Publisher Notes
British Architectural Library, RIBA 2001 Directory of British Architects 1834-1914
Post Office Directories
RIBA 1930 The RIBA Kalendar 1930-1931 London: Royal Institute of British
Architects
RIBA 1939 The RIBA Kalendar 1939-1940 London: Royal Institute of British
Architects
Who's Who in Architecture 1914
Archive References
The following archives hold material relating to this architect:
Source Archive Name Source Catalogue No. Notes
DMW Archive DMW Notes and collection of material Additional research by Iain
Paterson
RIBA Archive, Victoria & Albert Museum RIBA Nomination Papers L v21 no1692
© 2008, Dictionary of Scottish Architects
Website and database design by Codex Geodata
14. John Turnbull , CE, Clynder Rosebank Cottage (John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1842 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&enc=1> _about John
Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh
Registration Number: 502/1
Registration district: Rosneath
Civil Parish: Rosneath
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
Occupation: Consulting Engineer
Margaret Turnbull Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female Where born: Coatbridge, Lanarksh Registration Number: 502/1 Registration district:
Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
William Turnbull Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh Registration Number: 502/
1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder
Rosebank Cottage Occupation: Scholar
Campbell Turnbull Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh Registration Number: 502/
1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder
Rosebank Cottage Occupation: Scholar
Malcolm Turnbull Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh Registration Number: 502/
1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder
Rosebank Cottage
Catherine Turnbull Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name:
John Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh Registration
Number: 502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire
Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
Agnes Turnbull Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarksh Registration Number:
502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address:
Clynder Rosebank Cottage
Jane Marjoribanks Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Cousin Gender: Female
Where born: CO Linton, Peebleshire Registration Number: 502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil
Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
David Gilmour Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: N (V) Gender: Male Where born:
England Registration Number: 502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil Parish: Rosneath County:
Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage Occupation: Scholar
Margaret Lawrie Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relationship: Cousin Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil
Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage Occupation: Scholar
Helen Cassels Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where
born: Newton of Wemyss, Fifeshire Registration Number: 502/1 Registration district: Rosneath Civil
Parish: Rosneath County: Dumbartonshire Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage Occupation:
General Servant (Domestic)
1891 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1108&enc=1> _about John
Turnbull
Name: John Turnbull
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margret
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Sh
Registration Number: 518
Registration district: Kilfinan
Civil Parish: Kilfinan
County: Argyll
Address: Rose Bank
Occupation: Engineer (Meck: Consult)
1891 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1108&enc=1> _about
Margret Turnbull
Name: Margret Turnbull
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Coatbridge, Lanark Sh
Registration Number: 518
Registration district: Kilfinan
Civil Parish: Kilfinan
County: Argyll
Address: Rose Bank
Occupation: Engineer Wife
William L Turnbull Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margret Gender: Male Where born: Coatbridge, Lanark Sh Registration Number:
518 Registration district: Kilfinan Civil Parish: Kilfinan County: Argyll Address: Rose Bank
Occupation: Apptce - Engine Fitter
Campbell Turnbull Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margret Gender: Male Where born: Coatbridge, Lanark Sh Registration Number:
518 Registration district: Kilfinan Civil Parish: Kilfinan County: Argyll Address: Rose Bank
Occupation: Apptce - Engine Pattern Maker
Agnes Mcd Turnbull Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's
Name: John Mother's Name: Margret Gender: Female Where born: Coatbridge, Lanark Sh
Registration Number: 518 Registration district: Kilfinan Civil Parish: Kilfinan County: Argyll Address:
Rose Bank Occupation: Scholar
Margret M Lawrie Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Cousin Gender: Female
Where born: Coatbridge, Lanark Sh Registration Number: 518 Registration district: Kilfinan Civil
Parish: Kilfinan County: Argyll Address: Rose Bank
John married Elizabeth Lawrie or Margaret daughter of Lawrie.
They had the following children:
+ 26 M i. William Lawrie Turnbull was born about 1870. He died before 1915.
27 F ii. Catherine Turnbull was born about 1870. She died in May 1870.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries
\ _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Thursday, May 26, 1870; Issue 9484
at 118 New City Rd Catherine dau of John Turnbull jun
28 M iii. Campbell Turnbull was born about 1873 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
29 M iv. Malcolm Turnbull was born about 1876 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
30 F v. Catherine Turnbull was born about 1878 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
31 F vi. Agnes McDonald Turnbull was born about 1880 in Glasgow, Larnarksh..
Fourth Generation
22. Agnes Roy (Jessie Turnbull, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1871 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Thursday,
December 19, 1895; Issue 303
Agnes married David Gilmour , of Johannesburg son of David Gilmour Gilmore, bookkeeper and Catharine (Kate) Turnbull on 17 Dec 1895 in Cape Town, SA. David was born about 1868 in England.
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&enc=1> _about
David Gilmour
Name: David Gilmour
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: N (V)
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 502/1
Registration district: Rosneath
Civil Parish: Rosneath
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
1891
David and Agnes had the following children:
32 M i. Malcolm Turnbull Gilmour .
33 M ii. Benjamin Gilmour .
24. David Gilmour , of Johannesburg (Catharine (Kate) Turnbull, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1868 in England.
1881 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1119&enc=1> _about
David Gilmour
Name: David Gilmour
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: N (V)
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 502/1
Registration district: Rosneath
Civil Parish: Rosneath
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: Clynder Rosebank Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
1891
David married Agnes Roy daughter of Gilbert Roy ,oil mcht , Ailsa Lodge, Chorlton-cum-Hardy and Jessie Turnbull on 17 Dec 1895 in Cape Town, SA. Agnes was born about 1871 in Manchester, Lanchs., ENG.
Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries _Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Thursday,
December 19, 1895; Issue 303
David and Agnes had the following children:
34 M i. Malcolm Turnbull Gilmour is printed as #32 on page 24.
35 M ii. Benjamin Gilmour is printed as #33 on page 24.
26. William Lawrie Turnbull (John, John added, James or John prossibly) was born about 1870 in Glasgow, Larnarksh.. He died before 1915.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LANARK/2005-03/1112280395
From: "Sheena Jones" <sheenafjones@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:sheenafjones@yahoo.co.uk>> _Subject:
William Turnbull of 18 Blythswood Square, Glasgow _Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:46:35 +0100
_Does anyone have Turnbull information including this family? William L Turnbull, age 25, consulting
mechanical engineer, married Lizzie Kay, age 22, of Straiton, Ayrshire, at Cockburn Hotel, Bath St,
Glasgow 27 Sep 1895. Witnesses Campbell Turnbull and Jessie Kay. His parents were John
Turnbull, consulting mechanical engineer and Elizabeth Turnbull m.s. Lawrie, deceased. Her parents
were James Kay, farmer and Jean Kay m.s. McWhirter.__Elizabeth remarried in 1915 so William
Turnbull must have died. I am told their children were Millicent, Jean (1905-1920) and John. Millicent
and possibly John later went to Australia. __Regards__Sheena
William married Lizzie ( Elizabeth) Kay daughter of James Kay , farmer and Jean McWhirter on 27 Sep 1895 in Cockburn Hotel, Bath St, Glasgow. Lizzie was born about 1873 in Straiton, Ayrshire.
They had the following children:
36 F i. Millicent Turnbull .
37 F ii. Jean Turnbull was born in 1905. She died in 1920.
38 M iii. John Turnbull , to Australia possibly .
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