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Re: Tubbs family DNA
Posted by: Judith Voran (ID *****7860) Date: April 19, 2007 at 17:07:40
In Reply to: Re: Tubbs family DNA by LJ King of 1449

"Please give more details. Who will have this information, what will be done with it, where will it go, how much will it cost, how long will it take, what will be done with the sample, etc?---LJ

This depends upon the individual person submitting the DNA. Just to give some of my background in the process of using DNA to support or negate genealogical hypotheses: as a woman who cannot submit Y-DNA through a surname project, I have worked with five different males in submitting DNA to enhance traditional genealogical research in family lines.

The first male I encouraged to submit his DNA to Family Tree DNA is now a Project Coordinator for that surname. It is a very common surname, but through the process of submission and analysis a number of males who have that surname and who might never have been able to make the connection to the common ancestor have submitted their DNA and the results have confirmed that they were descended from a common ancestor for which we had a paper trail that had been developed through rigorous traditional genealogical research.

In the second instance, a male connection contacted me and asked if I could find some male in my line willing to submit DNA to compare with his DNA to see if we could that way close the small gap that we could not seem to break through in our research. I found an 85 year old double cousin of my mother, called him out of the blue. He was most welcoming and submitted his DNA. The match was exact. Question resolved. After that, several other males submitted their research and were able to tie into the line through their DNA results.

Now as to the process. In the case of most of the males, they have been quite willing to submit their DNA, but don't want to be bothered with the details so I am the email contact with Family Tree DNA. That doesn't have to be. Any member of the family or extended family can be the contact point. All I ask in offering to pay half of the cost of the kit submission is that the individual sign that they will be willing to have other males who match their test results notified of the results. That is the mechanism for comparison which is the whole point of submitting the DNA sample in my opinion.

The DNA that is tested are strings on the Y-chromosome that are not associated in any way with genetic tests for paternity or genetic diseases. The samples are held by Family Tree DNA. Their privacy rules are stringent. Believe me, the distant cousin in my first example would never associate himself in any way in which he felt that anyone's privacy -- including his own -- would be violated. The match information is exchanged through email addresses so that personal information such as addresses and phone numbers are not exchanged.

Someone orders the kit from Family Tree DNA -- the individual submitting the sample, a member of the family, or me. If I am the contact point, I keep the individual fully informed of all results and matches and what this indicates about the genetic relationships of those who match his DNA sample.

Once the kit arrives, it will will be a small envelope which contains two swabs and two small vials with a preserving fluid. On the first morning he swabs the inside of one cheek before eating breakfast or brushing his teeth. The swabs are like a plunger -- he swabs his cheek, then puts the swab end into the vial, and pushes the end of the swab (which is like a plunger) so that the swab tip remains in the vial and the stem of the plunger is thrown away. He screws the cap on the vial and puts the vial into the return envelope which is included in the kit. He repeats the same thing the next morning. Then he seals the envelope. I think he has to take the envelope to the PO or put enough postage on it to return it. Maybe return postage is paid. I just don't remember. There is also a form which he needs to fill out. He is requested to give his name, address, and email (he can put my email for correspondence.) That's it. Quick and painless.

I need some sort of pedigree to submit -- which does not include information on living people -- so that those who match the person can see where the "tie into the line" might come. The pedigree does not need to go back to the presumptive Tubbs founders of the individual lines, but should indicate the earliest known Tubb/s ancestor and the line of descent.

The results come in about six weeks. The fee for a 25 marker test is $148.00 of which I would pay $74.00.

Why do I want to do this? In my research on my southern Tubb line which is presumed to have descended from an immigrant who came to one of the southern colonies, I have begun to develop a tentative hypothesis that the southern Tubb/s clan may have descended from the northern Tubbs clan. In the process of making enquiries about DNA, I have been in contact with someone of a Maryland line of Tubbs, not well-known, whose brother would possibly be willing to submit DNA. Thus, if we could have one male with a well-established pedigree to the northern Tubbs line, one to the southern Tubb/s line and one to the Maryland line, we would have a triangulation, so to speak and my hypothesis would be confirmed or negated.

My great grandmother on my mother's father's side was the last Tubb in my line so I have no immediate Tubb contacts from my southern line upon whom I can call. As my distant cousin Ann Turner -- who co-authored the book, "Trace Your Family Roots With DNA" with Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak --said when I consulted her for suggestions on how to find the requisite males for such a sample: "Scatter the crumbs of information".

Here is a helpful URL:

I would would be happy to anser any further questions.

Judy Voran

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