Hi there Allen clan,
The Allens here in Oklahoma say this:
Henry Freelon Allen is the son of Joseph James and Sarah Jane Davis ALLEN. Okay.
The family tradition is Henry was born in Grayson county, Texas. Well they do end up living there.
(I am working on getting his death certificate as we post)
So working backwards
Sarah Jane Davis ALLEN died July 25, 1924 in Troy, Johnston, OK
1910 Census for District 126, Harris Township, Johnston Co., OK
Sarah is living on Tishomingo-Connervill And Pontotee? Road
ALLEN, Sarah J Head F (Female) W (White) Age: 57 M1 (Married 1 time for) 34 (years) 8 births 8 Living Birthplace: Tennessee Father's: Tennessee Mother: Tennessee Born about 18
Omer: Son Age: 25 Birthplace: OK TN TN Born about 1885.
Susie: Dau in law Age: 21 Birthplace: Alabama TN TN Born about 1889
Lavonia Dau (Daughter) Age: 17. Birthplace: TX TN TN Born 1879
Next door is another son of Sarah and Joseph Allen:
ALLEN, Oscar: Head Age25: Married 1st Time 1 year Birthplace: OK TN TN
Wife: Mary Age: 21 Married 1st Time 1 Birth 1 Living Birthplace: OK TN TN
Son: Unnamed Age: 2 /12 Birthplace: OK OK TN
Joseph James Allen died Oct 20, 1894 in Springer, Carter, OK
1880 Enumeration District 122, Montague County, Texas
ALLEN, Jas. J. White Male Age: 29 (Born about 1850/1) Farmer Birthplace: Tennessee Father: TN Mother: TN (Born about 1851)
Wife: Sarah J. Age: 28 Born about 1852) Keeping House Birthplace: Tennessee Father: TN Mother: TN
Daughter Rosetta Age: 5 (Born about 1875) Birthplace: Texas Father: TN Mother: TN
Son: Henry F. Age: 3 (Born about 1877) Birthplace: Texas (This is Henry Freelon Allen)
Son: Harry? or Harvey? Age: 5/12 (Born about 1880) Birthplace: Texas
Neighbors: Geo. W. and Sarah E. Boils, Thos. E. and Malinda De Garner?, Kermit DAVIS who is a mother to Thomas E. De Garner?Jessie DAVIS. (Davis from MI) Then Harold and Emma Cheney family and John A. and Josephine Frost also from Tennessee.
Other ALLEN families in Montaque, TX in 1880 that are born in Tennessee: A. B. and Sarah Allen; and B.P. and M. C. Allen
Note for 1880 Search: No "James Allen" in Grayson area that is married with children, especially a son named Henry...
However, there is a Joseph B. ALLEN that is the son of S. S. ALLEN and his wife Sarah Jane. Sarah is 50 and S. S is 49 This Joseph is born 1856 in TN (this does confuse me a little)
Basically I am confidant that Jas J and Sarah J Allen with son Henry F age 3 is correct because I follow the children.
Rosetta marries William M SELF and has 3 (in census that are known to me) children and live in Oklahoma City.
Harry D Allen fills out a WWI record in Reagan, Johnston County, OK. He marries Maggie Frankie (maiden name?) and they live in 1910 and 1920 in Johnston County, OK. Have 2 children I am aware.
BIGGIE: Johnston County,Oklahoma and Oklahoma City are places where the bulk of this family lives in 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 and presently.
Robert Oscar Allen also fills out a WWI card in Coleman? of Johnston, OK. He married Alta Emma (maiden name unknown) Maybe goes by "Oscar" and is then married to "Mary" in 1910. See above living next to Sarah J. Allen.
Texas Marriages, 1851-1900:
J. J. ALLEN to S. A. DAVIS 20 Mar 1876 Denton TX
So all helps. (
Denton, Montague and Grayson and close counties of Okalhoma.
1870 Census Search. The best I have are the next two with the question, are they the same?
1870 this James Allen living as a student, age 20, born in Tennessee be the same James Joseph/Joseph/James Allen , the son of James and Lucy Allen living with Archerbald and Sarah Allen in Wilson Tennessee. Note enumeration dates.
1870 Census for Texas, Grayson County, Post Office Sherman
Enumerated on 18th July 1870
SENNETT, Harriet Age; 51 Domestic Servant birthplace: Tennessee
Fmf? Franing Age: 12 Female birthplace: Tennessee
ALLEN, James Age: 20 Male White Going to school birthplace: Tennessee
Neighbors: Peter and Ammy Douglass, Black, J. P. and Cyntha Hopson are from Tennenesse also.
So could Joseph James Allen have moved from 30th June 1870 to Grayson Co., Tx by 18th of July 1870? In TN he is 17 then in Texas is 20?
1870 Census for District 21, Wilson County, Tennessee Located 2006
ALLEN, Archerbald age: 85 Male White Occupation: Farmer Real Estate Value $2,000 Personal: blank Birthplace: Virginia Born about 1785
Sarah age: 73 Birthplace: Virginia (Wife) Born about 1897
James age: 42 Occupation: Farmer Birthplace: Tennessee (Son) Born about 1828.
Lucy age: 40 House Keeping Birthplace: Tennessee (Wife of James) Born about 1830
Sarah age: 21 Birthplace: Tennessee (Dau of James and Lucy)
John age: 18 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
James age: 17 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
Joseph age: 15 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
Martha age: 14 Birthplace: Tennessee (Dau of James and Lucy)
William age: 12 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
Frank age: 10 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
Edward age: 4 Birthplace: Tennessee (Son of James and Lucy)
Mary age: 2 Birthplace: Tennessee (Dau of James and Lucy)
Florence age: 1/12 Birthplace: Tennessee (Dau of James and Lucy) (born about 1869)
1860 Census Search April 14, 2007 18 Allen names in Wilson couty. Can't find Archie/Archibald or any Allen that works in Wilson County.
Tried Sarah Allen also. Through search engines. Am trying to "browse page by page" and will inform later. Maybe like you say, they moved to KY. Doesn't come up easy through Heritage Quest online search engine looking for "Allen" names. Yikes.
1860 Census for District 7, Henry County, Tennessee
Post office Manlyville page 99
ALLEN, James J. Age: 31 Farmer Personal Real Estate $700 $570 Birthplace: Tenn (about 1829)
Lucy A. Age: 27 Birthplace: Tenn (born about 1823)
Sarah E. J. Age: 11 Birthplace: Tenn
Joseph J. Age: 8 Birthplace: Tenn born about 1851/2) This works for me.
James A. Age:7 Birthplace: Tenn
John L. S.? Age: 5 Birthplace: Tenn
Martha A. J. Age: 1 Birthplace: Tenn
NOTE: In 1860 census, son "JOSEPH J" Allen age: 8 which makes him born about 1851/2. That works and this is my most clear chance I have the right family. Let me know if you solidly something else please.
1850 Census for District 21, Wilson County, Tennessee (Located Feb 26, 2007)
Archibald ALLEN age: 66 Male Real Estate Value $1,800 Birthplace: Virginia born about 1784
Wife: Sarah age: 57 Birthplace: Virginia born about 1793
Son: Joseph M. age: 20 Birthplace: Tennessee born about 1829 May have found living in Tow Valley, Llano, TX with a wife Ruth...
Dau: Mary age: 12 Birthplace: Louisana (not TN OR VA) 1838
Dau: Martha age: 12 Twin...Birthplace: Louisana (not TN OR VA)
1850 - District 1, DeKalb, Tennessee
This James is the one!
James ALLEN age: 20 Male Occupation: Farmer Born: Tennessee (Born about 1830)
Wife: Luca A age: 20 Born: Tennessee (born about 1830)
Dau: Sarah J. age: 1 Born: Tennessee
Also have sent off for Sarah Jane Davis Allen's Death certificate recently.
My weakest point, it hoping I have it right that Joseph James Allen as a son to James T. and Lucy Allen.
Are you related? Let me know.
Sarah in Norman, OK
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