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Re: James Jackson Perry
Posted by: Barbra Hathcock (ID *****8213) Date: June 18, 2009 at 12:31:05
In Reply to: Re: James Jackson Perry by Darron Williams of 474

Yes, I think that the James Perry and Mary Perry, who are in the 1860 household of William R. Shirley are yours. (I found the William Shirley, newly married and still living in Haywood for the 1870 census, but it was just him and his wife.)

I also am certain that the Mary A. Stanfield, who is living in the household of Aquila & Mary Elizabeth Todd, is your Mary.

BUT I do not know, or have enough 'feeling', that Mary Elizabeth was her mother. (But I do find it strange that the enumerator wrote, 'at home' for Mary Ann. Most of the time, a boarder or person other than a family member, would be listed as a ward, boarder, renter, or domestic help. But she was listed as 'at home'.

Now, I also believe that the William Perry, who was listed as being 6, was the first child of James and Mary. I really wish that I could locate them for the 1870 census, but I spent almost 4 hours this morning, SEARCHING every way I could possibly think of, for them.

I did find that Crockett county did not exist until 1871. Parts of Haywood, Madison, Dyer and Gibson were incorporated to make Crockett Co. in 1871.

Also, IF James and Mary were following the 'old naming pattern', then the father of James was a William. It was the custom for almost 100 years, even in this country, for the first born son, to be named after the father of the husband, the first born daughter to be named after the mother of the wife, the second son to be named after the father of the wife, the second daughter to be named after the mother of the husband, the third son to be named after the husband's favorite uncle, the third daughter to be named after the wife's favorite aunt, and then it gets really fuzzy, but there is a pattern, even up to the 13 and 14th child.

I thought that I had found the family of James Jackson, but luckly I also found a tree on that contained the person who I was thinking, and it was for a J. J. Perry, born in 1832, in NC. BUT it turned out to be for a Justin James Perry, who was born and died in Bertie Co., NC. Also, the father of this man was not named William.

Remember, you also have to keep in your mind, that James Jackson MIGHT still be in NC for the time of the 1850 census. All we know for sure, is that he was in, probably, Haywood Co. by the time he married Mary Ann. She was still single in September 1850, and the William was born in about 1854, after adding almost a year for the pregnancy, that would mean that they were married in 1851-1853 in Haywood Co.

I looked in Haywood, Gibson, Madison and Dyer counties. I looked for people born about 1828-1836 in all those counties with a name, that in any way could be James and Mary. I checked for J. J., J., James, Jack, Jackson, Mary, M. E., Elizabeth and just plain searched for anyone born during that time frame, and I did find one that very closely resembled Mary, but her husband was in no way James, and the names of the children, were not in any way, resembling the names of the Thomas Green or James Jackson.

Once again, I have to assume that they were moving around, and had left one place in Haywood Co., BEFORE the enumeration was taken, and had moved to another part of Haywood Co., AFTER the enumeration had been taken there.

This is something that I have come upon, a great deal of the time. It mainly occurs when someone who does not own their own place, and they are constantly on the move.

If I sound like a know-it-all, please understand that I have been at this game for over 45 years, and have well over 60,000 people in my personal database.

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