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Re: Descendancy of James THRIFT & Sina BALL
Posted by: Richard Thrift (ID *****5791) Date: September 19, 2008 at 18:07:34
In Reply to: Re: Descendancy of James THRIFT & Sina BALL by Richard Thrift of 353

Who are James Thrift Sr's (husband of Sinah Ball) parents & siblings?

James Thrift Sr is from Fairfax Co, VA. Tress Pittenger notes that 3 sons of Nathaniel Thrift (1669-1736) settled in Fairfax Co, "Charles (~1717-1790), Jeremiah (1719-1806) and George Thrift (~1721-1797) were all living in Fairfax County at the same time." These three Thrifts were all of the same generation as Moses Ball, Sr (1717-1792). The sons & grandsons of Charles and George Thrift are well-accounted for through wills etc, so James is probably not descended from either of them [unless he is the same as James Offutt Thrift (b. ~1800, d. after 1829), grandson of Charles, however this seems unlikely since the James O does not have a brother named John, see below]. Therefore James is probably Jeremiah's descendant.

Jeremiah's children are NOT clearly known. Jeremiah Sr married Ann Trammel and is interred in the Ball cemetery in Arlington VA, as is Mary Ann Thrift Ball (1750-1804), wife of Ensign John Ball (1746-1814)(son of Moses Ball Sr). It is said by some (but NOT documented as far as I know) that Mary Ann Thrift was Jeremiah's daughter. On the other hand, Pittenger states that Mary Ann was born to Richard and Elizabeth A. Thrift. If Mary Ann was not Jeremiah's child, then why is Jeremiah interred in the Ball Cemetery?

Another possible child of Jeremiah Sr (this is by no means established) is Jabez Thrift (b ~1750, family & other details unknown) who married Priscilla Ball (b aft 1750, family & other details unknown) and had a daughter Ann "Nancy" Thrift (~1781-1864) who married her "cousin" Robert Ball (1776-1861). The details of why Robert is termed her cousin are not known. Robert was son of John Ball & Mary Ann Thrift. IF Mary Ann is not Jeremiah's daughter, but Jabez is his son, then this relationship to a Ball daughter-in-law might explain why Jeremiah is in the Ball cemetery. Perhaps both Mary Ann and Jabez are Jeremiah Sr's children.

Pittenger hints that Jeremiah had a son named Jeremiah (Jr), but does not mention the source of this info. Ensign John Ball's brother, James Ball, was Sinah's father. So Sinah's husband, James Thrift (~1790-1840) was in the generation of Moses Ball Sr's & Jeremiah Thrift Sr's grandchildren. It is conceivable and even likely that James Thrift Sr was Jeremiah Sr's grandson, either Jabez's or Jeremiah Thrift Jr's son.

Through the will & codicil of James H?W? Thrift Jr (mentioned by Pittenger) it is known that James Thrift Sr had a brother John, and either a sister or sister-in-law Margaret Thrift. (Margaret died by 1860, John was living with Sinai Ball in 1870.) So there are several siblings whose births are not clearly documented.

There seems to have been quite a bit of intermarriage between descendants of Moses Ball & Jeremiah Thrift. I hope more documentation can be found!



I was given pdf's of two newspaper articles mentioning that the family was confident they would receive a portion of the inheritance fom the Joseph Ball estate
[Delphos Ohio "The Daily Herald" of August 5, 1897, possibly page 3; Lima Ohio "The Times-Democrat" of August 4, 1897]. However it is not clear whether their expectations were borne out.

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On to James H?W? Thrift, Jr.

MAJOR JAMES H?W? THRIFT, Jr was born Abt. 1816 in Fairfax Co, VA, and died Abt. June 01, 1862 in Henrico Co, VA. He married LUCRETIA M. REID, daughter of JOHN REID and MARY HALLEY. She was born Abt. 1825. Child of JAMES THRIFT and LUCRETIA REID is MARY REID THRIFT, b. Abt. 1849; m. JOHN N. BALLARD, September 1874; d. October 13, 1922, Fairfax Co, VA. The Ballards are said to have had 4 children http://www.mosocco.com/companya.html

http://historicfairfax.org/HFCI51.pdf
Source: The Daily Dispatch, August 9, 1861, Richmond, VA.
Outrages committed by the "Grand Army" in Fairfax county.
Fairfax C. H., Va., July 6.
To the Editors of the Dispatch:
... The residence of Col. James Thrift, now a Captain of Virginia volunteers, was an object of their peculiar hatred. Here a squad entered, and after searching for arms proceeded to break open drawers, steal coats, jewelry, towels, liquors and bacon, destroy papers, looking glasses, and such things as would gratify their fiendish purposes, leaving the house and yard strewn with the fragments of their work. The likeness of Capt. Thrift, taken when a Captain in the Mexican war, was stolen by them, but this has since been restored to him, having been taken from the haversack of one of the killed on the battlefield of the 21st. ...

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/huntoon/1998-09/0905001043 Chapter 4 - pp 66 - 69 [Battle of Seven Pines - Robert E. Lee takes command]
"In the meantime the Battle of Seven Pines was fought, May 31-June 1, 1862....The fight lasted two days. On the second it was not very severe, but on the first it was terrific ...Major Thrift, the newly elected Major, was mortally wounded, and was afterwards succeeded by Captain Edmund Berkeley."

Pittenger wrote: "There are several loose ends to the Thrift family which I hope some one will be able to tie up. On 2 June 1858 James Thrift made his will which was probated in Fairfax County 18 September 1865 [Fairfax County Will Book Z, p. 327]. He leaves to his unnamed mother land in Putnam County, Ohio he received for military service (probably the war of 1812) plus cash and some Stockton City (California?) bonds. To each of his bothers William, John and Franklin he gives a 40 acre lot in Putnam County and cash to brothers William, Robert, John, Franklin, Washington and Albert and sisters Margaret, Jane and Catherine. He leaves to his daughter Mary Reid 80 acres in Putnam County and 80 acres in Iowa which had been given him by his father-in-law, Col. John Reid. He had also made a bequest to his uncle John and aunt Margaret Thrift which he revoked by codicil in 1860 as Margaret had died. He made cash bequests to William Ayre and Martha Ann Ayer and each of their children with out identifying any relationship and to Miss Amanda Halley who was possibly a niece of his wife's.


What is James' middle initial? Neither Pittenger nor Robert Kendall mention an initial, nor does it appear on the monument to Confederate Dead in Fairfax (which displays his name prominently); yet the list of people interred in the Confederate Cemetery there has James W Thrift. He is called James H in the personal history at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~libeacons/1875personal_histories_ottawa.htm I don't consider either of the 2 sources for his MI completely reliable. The initial might be mentioned in his will, which I haven't seen.


His heritage has been in the news lately, without however mentioning him by name.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/ox-hill-battlefield-saved-by-locals/
"The Battle of Ox Hill on Sept. 1, 1862, the only battle fought in Virginia's most populous county, has been virtually ignored for years. That will end at 10 a.m. Monday, when the Fairfax County Park Authority dedicates a newly restored park 146 years to the day since about 15,000 soldiers met at a battleground called Ox Hill by Confederates and Chantilly by the Union. It has been a long time coming.

...John Ballard was a former Confederate cavalryman who had ridden with Mosby's Rangers and had lost a leg in 1863. He married Mary Reid Thrift, the young heiress to the farm where the battle was fought. There they raised their family and farmed the land."

Mary Thrift Ballard & John Ballard are the ones who originally donated the site.



See also
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ox_Hill_Battlefield_Park
Ox Hill Battlefield Park is a site in Fairfax, Virginia where the Battle of Chantilly (Confederate name Battle of Ox Hill) was fought during the American Civil War, the only major battle of the war fought in Fairfax County.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/parks/gmp/oxhillgmp.pdf
Ox Hill Battlefield Park General Management Plan and Conceptual Development Plan
Fairfax County Park Authority Approved January 2005
...
The Battle of Ox Hill (Chantilly) was fought on the old Reid farm which had been inherited by a young granddaughter named Mary Reid Thrift. In 1874, Lt. John N. Ballard, a former Confederate cavalryman and Mary Thrift were married and took up residence at the farm they now called Fruit Vale Farm.

E. Administrative History of the Park
This site is a park today because of a gracious gift of Lieutenant John N. Ballard and his wife Mary Thrift Ballard. On July 7, 1915, John and Mary Ballard deeded a small plot (approximately .115 acres) for the purpose of commemorating the battle. In the deed the Ballards stipulated that the conveyance was made for the specific purpose of "allowing any person or persons the privilege of erecting appropriate monuments or markers commemorating the death of any Confederate or Federal Soldier who fell in the battle fought on the Fruit Vale Farm, this battle was fought on the 1st day of September 1862, being known as the Battle of Ox Hill or Chantilly" (Fairfax County Deed Book x-7, Folio 570). The parcel is designated as “Cemetery” on tax maps, but in fact is a memorial plot with stone markers.
...
Although the Kearny-Stevens Memorial plot is not currently owned by the Park Authority, it is fair to surmise that its preservation led to the establishment of the surrounding park site. The Park Authority’s Ox Hill Battlefield Park is comprised of five parcels of land totaling approximately 4.8 acres. In 1986, newspaper reports about proposed development of the battlefield and intent to relocate the monuments to another site generated intense public interest and opposition...


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