Re: Help Needed-Looking for Mary Polly Teter/Teeter
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Re: Help Needed-Looking for Mary Polly Teter/Teeter
Dee Dee Bailey 10/04/08
Hello Dee
There were 3 Teters in the Orange Frederick area 1730s.
one was John George Deiter who lied at the Opekuan area. He came on the the Allen. His son John George Teter was born 1739 that rules out the George Teater of Kentucky his headstone shows he was born 1736 and loose notes show his middle name was William.
There was the George Dieter[ teter] of Orange Co died end of 1743 his children George Paul Phillip Teter intermarried with the Hinlkes this clan coined Teter Hinkles of Rockingham Co Augusta ect. Here again the George Teater of Kentucky has no notes or documents to attach to this line.
There was George Jeter. Hes detailed in the manuscript the Jeter Mossiac as the son of John Jeter a Presbyterian Huguenot family origianlly from france but lived in England for 3 generations arrived in the 1680s from England,
3 brothers g
George Jeter William Jeter and Joseph Geter.
All three of these also used the name Teter Tetor Teator.
George Jeter can be found after 1743 in Frederick Co as George Teator William Jeter and his sons james Cornelious can be found in the old 96th SC as William Teter James Tetor and Cornilous Tetor.
Joseph Jeter can be found 1750s Rowan co as Joseph Teater.
. John Dieter or John George Teter who was written as George Teater of Kentucky, he was not. He can be found in Berks PA 1760s with his son John George Teter and they are both buried there. John George Teter did not remain long in the Opekuan he moved back to Berks PA.
In North carolina there 4 brothers who were sons of Samuel Teterton Teder Teeder ect. He was born in Tyrrell NC and lived in Surry VA with his wife Mary Evans..
These bothers were Benjamin Teder Samuel Teder George Teder
and Jacob Teder. Jacob and Samuel and George Teder lived in Edgcombe NC 1750s 52 53 ect. Samuel Teder and Jacob Teder were clerks of the court there. The other brother Benjamin Tedder lived in Beaufort NC.
George Teder had 2 sons Thomas Tettor and George Tedder who both lived in Dobbs NC.
Jacob Teder and George Teder can be found in Rowan Co late 1750s and early 1760s as Teeder Teater they liived with the Mccullahs who also came from Edgecombe Co..
This leaves 2 stong candidate lines for 1st born Samuel Gibson Teater b 1735-34 then younger brother George Teater 1736-37 Samuel was born near new years 1735. I favor Samuel Teder of Edgecombe brother of George Teeder Sr. One good reason is the names Samuel William George in both families.
The time line is perfect. Next is the in laws of George Teater such as Frosts Boones Vancleaves others were all on the same Militia and Tax Lists with George Teeder Sr and Jacon Teater. Richard Pearis had notes in Edgecombe 1750 on the Toops will and George and Samuel Teater both appeared to have arrived in the French Indian war with Daniel Boone ,then from Rowan Co NC. George and Samuel had no sons named Jacob but George and Samuel are very plentifull.. Samuel Teder is not found after 1752 yet . This have may left George and Samuel as young orphans 16 17 yrs old living with uncles George Teeder Sr or Jacob in Rowan Co start of the French Indian War.. George Teater was close to both John Findly and Squire and Daniel Boone all same waggoner units Braddocks defeat French Indian War. In the siege of Boonesborough 1778 Danie Boone named Capt Teter as friend. This was Samuel Teater. The only way they could have been old friends was for Samuel to be orignally from Rowan Co as Daniel Boone was
in 1766 -------- Teeter was on the Rowan Co Tax List then Capt Teeter 1766 Rowan Co..Samuel Teeter did not marry Mary Doddridge until he was near 37 rs old and had his children when he was in 40s. This is a strong indication he had a 1st wife in Rowan Co, and became a Widower then moved to Bedford 1768 where he taxed as single man. The year prior George Teter 1765 as listed father south in St Johns Georgia and there several Parris families there same time. George Teater was last discharged as Sgt George Teator on the 1762 Cherokee expedition in the company of Nathaniel Gist. His son Samuel was born the following year. George Parris lived at the area where Samuel said he was born New River soon to be Boteourt. George Parris removed the same year to Rowan Co NC. It appears both George Teater and Samuel Teater went the same time with George Parris, but George went father south all the way to St Johns Georgia.The Starns who owned the property Crab Creek section also abandened that area in the 1760s and where in NC.. 1768 both Samuel and George made their moves. George Teater arrived on the South Irish Colony area Crab Creek Tract and purchaed x amount of acres from Frederick Starns. Samuel arrived in the Bedford area same year 1768 as single 34 33 yrs old.
The records of the Battle of Point Pleasnat Lord Dunmores war shows Sgt George Teater 3 times. Men who severed under him where George Parris Robert Parris John Findly others.
These were James Thompsons Co and William Campbells Co. In 3 instanes George Teater is found running a platoon with Lt William Edmonston various spellings. George Teater settled at the Bakers Creek Tract which would be a section of Botetourt Fincastle then into Washington Co. His former land at Crab Creek was formed into Montgomery Co.. by 1779 George Teater and his 16 yr old son Samuel where at Clarks Station Ky. Then1783 George Teater had his own cabin about 4 miles away from Clarks Station on the Dix River with William Gains. By 1737 he moved to the Madison area where he found with his in laws the Rays Van Cleaves Squire Boone and others.. George Teater is listed as a officer at Clarks Station no rank given. It appears his son George Teater Jr was a Ensign back in Washington Co, George Teater was way to old to have served as a Ensign a rank usually reserved for young boys especially Washington Co which claims to have more boys in the Revolution than other county during the Revolution
1792 George Tetor signed the petition of men in Madison Ky to form the State of Kentucky. 1794 he buried his wife Sarah Parris Pearis. 1796 He remarried Esther Griffith his son in law Samuel Griffith was the bondsman. Sometime after 1806 he married his 3rd wife also named Esther the mother inlaw of his son Parris Teater. She was the Widow of Benjamin Totten who was the father of Rebecca Totten. Therefore George Teater was the father in law and step father of Rebecca Totten. Its been grosely misreported that Benjamin Totten died 1794 in Lynchburg. This is false information he was listed as Capt Benjamin Totten 1802 in Jackson Tn and Sheriff of Smyth Co tn 1800. Some excuse this as his son Benjmin Jr. This is not so, Benajmin Totten Jr is listed in the Tn Regiment war of 1812 as the rank of Private thefore he could not be Capt Totten 1802.. Also way way misreported is that Benjamin Totten was from New York and married Easter Hikke. Benjamin Totten was apprenticed to Andrew Miller 1768 Augusta Virginia There is no proof his wife was Hicks She iS more likely a Crockett, Benjamin Totten had only one Tithable 1782 Thefore he was not the Benjamin Totten of New York whos family were the most notorious Torys in the State. He appears to be the son of John Tuton and ? female Gonzalva. Benjamin had a grandson name Joseph Hicks yet he had many kids named Lockhart Clinton CWestern
Madison and many more. He is listed 2nd in Orange Co NC on the petition to form Caswell Co 1770s in Orange Co NC. He joined John Totten in Burks Garden and Thomas Ingles 1781.
in any case he was not from New York and there is no proof his wife was Hicks that was another Benjamin Totten no relationship.. THE 1813 POWER OF ATTORNEY,records her name Esther not Easter the will of George Teater records her name Ester again not Easter. Her daughters name was Easter who married the son of Rhoda Parris.. Many loose notes indicate she was related to the Crocketts.
Richard Pearis wrote a letter to the Crown after the Revoltion that his Daughters and wife where abused by the Patriot forces. This means that the daughters of Rhoda being Sarah and Margaret were then still Spinsters by this time. Sarah the daughter of Rhoda could not be George Teaters wife. The Burke and Shell Manuscripts name Robert and George Parris as the sons of Richards older brother George Parris whose white wife was Sarah Pepper. This reconfirmed by the Giles county letter of Jesse Pepper.
George Parris was simular or may have had more Indian wives than Richard. The Catwaba tribe names him as marring one of thier high ranking ladies and he is lited as a bother in law of Thomas Hyter the King of the Chowan Indians.
Both Robert Parris and George Parris lived near Benjamin Totten and John Totten in Montgomery Co. Both Benjamin Totten and John Totten joined Robert Parris in Greene Tn by 1783. Robert Parris and Rhoda Parris 1/2 sister Indian came to Madison with the Hohimers Tottens same group same time with Robert Parris
Robert Teater son of George Teater and Sarah Pearis left Madison Kentucky with Robert Parris and they both went to Shelby Co Kentucky together. Robert Teater appears to be named after this uncle.. Therefore all in all Sarah appears to be the daughter of George Parris and one of Indian women.
For a long time due to incorrect information in the book the Teater family of Kentucky there seems to be a pass the buck file on George Teater that his name was John. There is not one document yet, or produced so far that the George Teater who married Sarah Pearis. The George Teater of Washington Co Va and Kentucky was never named John nor is there one document that shows his name was ever recored as Diter Deiter Dieter. He had no German familes in laws friends or known aquanticies who were of German descent. All German Dieters Teters of that era always signed and wrote their documents in German script. George and Samuel used general frontier english on the signatures and documents..
There was John Teeter who came to Washington Co 1773 Three yrs after George Teater. His wife was Eve Turney he settled with the Lefevers Funkhousers Fleenors Turneys 100s oF miles away at Beaver Creek North Fork of the Holston. Most of these families show to have came by Bucks PA to the Shanandoah regon then to Beaver Creek N Fork of the Holston.
Again there records of this John Teeter being connected to George Teater.
As i understand John Harris married a Heard. And was father to Timothy Harris. Below I have culed a excerpt of the Edminston file which details the William Edminston, very close military friend of George Teater and the Heard family.
Also on this forum or the Teeter forum is the Will of William Van Cleave which mentions George Teater and the Harris family. So I hope this helps or may be of use.
(DAVID "TURK" EDMISTON OF AUGUSTA COUNTY VIRGINIA)
From: Howard Vallance Jones
18 Winter Ridge Rd.,
Cedar Falls, IA, 50613
[[email protected]]
--PART 4--
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4:Jay Nagle Edmondson, b. 30 Nov. 1905, d. 31 Dec. 1969 m. 12 Nov. 1927, Helen Kitch
i.D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-1:Sylvia Edmondson, b. 30 Sept. 1931 m. James Donald Hites
i.D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-1-1:Steven Gregory Hites, b. 9 May 1954
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-1-2:Lucinda Suzanne Hites, b. 10 Oct. 1956
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-1-3:Sarah Elaine Hites, b. 4 March 1961
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-1-4:Kathryn Marie Hites, b. 18 July 1963
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-2:Jay Fredrick Edmondson, b. 18 Oct. 1935 m. 14 June 1958, Joanne Lee Kvenning.(div.)
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-4-3:Bruce Edmondson, b. 13 Feb. 1937
D-1-1-1-9-5-2-5:Gene V. Edmondson, b. 18 Oct. 1909 m. 28 Feb. 1933, Elinor Selleck
i.D-1-1-1-9-5-2-5-1:David Campbell Edmondson, b. 7 July 1935[1]
D-1-1-1-10:Mary (Polly) Paxton Edmundson
b. Rockbridge Co. VA, 17 Aug. 1799
d. 12 Feb. 1835
m.Rockbridge Co., 28 March 1822, David Laird, s/o James
b. Rockbridge Co., 1 Jan. 1791
d.
i.
D-1-1-1-10-1:Mary Malvina Laird, b. Locust Grove VA, 6 Apr. 1825 m. 27 Jan. 1853, Daniel Brown, b. Bellevue, 1807, d. 19 Feb. 1871, 4th s/o Rev. Samuel &Mary Moore."A farmer, a most estimable gentleman, and an Elder in New Providence Church."
i.D-1-1-1-10-1-1:Daniel Edward Brown, b. Rockbridge Co., 7 Sept. 1865.(Paxton) "was educated at Washington and Lee University, was for several years an official in the Mechanic's National Bank, of Knoxville Tenn, and is now the traveling representative of the Southern Manufacturing Co., of Richmond Va., in the state of Texas"
D=1=1=1=10-2:Elizabeth Jane Laird, b. Rockbridge Co., 4 Aug. 1827 m. 1 Aug. 1848, George W. Ross, b. TN.(Paxton)"¼for many years, was a merchant in Athens, Tenn.He afterwards moved to Knoxville and became a large land proprietor and owned and operated extensive marble quarries near Knoxville.About the time he attained his majority, and while traveling with his father (who was a merchant), from Athens, Tenn., to Baltimore Md, on horseback, before the day of railroads, to buy goods, they sopped at Locust Grove, in the valley of Va., to spend the night, and there for the first time met the lady who afterwards became his wife."
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-1:David Laird Ross, b. Knoxville TN, 5 March 1850 m. 14 Jan. 1875, Cornelia E. Peed
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-1-1:George Ross, b. 2 March 1877
D-1-1-1-10-2-1-2:Leo Miller Ross, b. 25 June 1883
D-1-1-1-10-2-2:William Watson Ross, b. 29 Jan. 1852 m. 14 Feb. 1877, Mary Elizabeth Butler
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-2-1:Edith C. Ross, b. 2 Apr. 1879
D-1-1-1-10-2-3:James Edward Ross, b. 16 Apr. 1854 m. 23 Sept. 1890s, Jessie Bosworth
D-1-1-1-10-2-4:John Murrell Ross, b. 27 June 1857 m. 1)13 Dec. 1882, Grace Gray Kelso, d. 31 Jan. 1886
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-4-1:Murrell Gray Ross, b. 9Feb. 1884 m. 2)1 July 1891, Callie Wood
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-4-2:Margaret G. Ross, b. 27 Oct. 1891
D-1-1-1-10-2-5:Charles B. Ross, b. 9 Nov. 1859
D-1-1-1-10-2-6::Mary Malvina Ross, b. 12 Feb. 1862
D-1-1-1-10-2-7:George Ross, b. 16 Sept. 1864, d. 11 May 1866
D-1-1-1-10-2-8:Elizabeth Belle Ross, b. 27 July 1867 m. 19 Jan. 1893, H. L. Hahn
i.D-1-1-1-10-2-8-1:Wallace Ross Hahn, b. 15 Jan. 1897
D-1-1-1-10-2-9::Ida May Ross, b. 7 Dec. 1870
D-1-1-1-10-3:James Garland Laird, b. Locust Grove, 20 July 1830, d. Decatur GA, 29 June 1878."druggist and farmer." m. 1)26 Nov. 1857, Sarah Maria Patterson, b., 6 July 1828s, d. 14 June 1859, d/o James of Staunton VA.
i.D-1-1-1-10-3-1:James Edward Laird, b. s6 June 1859 m. 6 Nov. 1861, Mary Elizabeth Parry, d/o Matthew H. & Jane Telford McKee
D-1-1-1-10-3-2:David Arthur Laird, b. Rockbridge Co. 11 Feb. 1863, d. Decatur GA, 25 Jan. 1889
D-1-1-1-10-3-3:John Poarry Laird, b. Decautr GA, 23 May 1866, "salesman in Atlanta" m. 15 Oct. 1889, Ada Belle Ferguson, d/o McDougal & Sarah C. of Russell Co. AL
i.D-1-1-1-10-3-3-1:Arthur McDougal Laird, b. 22 Jan. 1892
D-1-1-1-10-3-3-2:John Parry Laird, b. 28 Aug. 1894
D-1-1-1-10-3=4:Charles McCluer Laird, b. 18 Aug. 1868, d. 12 Oct. 1886
D-1-1-1-10-4:David Edward Laird, b. Locust Grove, 22 Oct. 1832 m.15 Nov. 1859, D-1-1-1-2-5-2:Nancy Edmondon McClure, b. "Seclusaval:" near Fancy Hill, Rockbridge Co. VA, 28 Sept. 1837Nancy Edmondson McCluer, d/o Robert Campbell & Mary E. Parry, q.v.
D-1-1-1-10-5:John Ewing Laird, b. Locust Grove, 28 Jan. 1835, d. Lexington VA, 22 Feb. 1902."a farmer, a soldier in the Confederate army, in Co. C, 1st Virginia Cavalry, and a modest, unassuming Christian gentleman>' m. 23 Oct. 1860, Nannie McKee Parry, d/o Matthew H. & Jane Telford McKee.
i.D-1-1-1-10-5-1:Walter Parry Laird, b. "Contentment", Rockbridge Co., 13 Aug. 1861 m. 9 Oct. 1901, Dunkirk NY, Marie Blanche Williams of Lincoln NE.Res. Oil City PA
D-1-1-1-10-5-2:Frank Brown Laird, b. Lock Laird, Rocbridge Co., 25 June 1864, d. 16 Dec. 1882
D-1-1-1-10-5-3:Ida Ross Laird, b. Loch Laird, 16 Aug. 1866.Res. with her mother at Lexington VA
D-1-1-1-10-5-4:Clarence Hawes Laird, b. Loch Laird, 15 Apr. 1868. "an agent for the Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. at Washington D.C."
D-1-1-1-10-5-5:John William Laird, b. Loch Laird, 21 Aug. 1870, "now manager of the Southern Bell Telephone Exchange of Staunton VA."
D-1-1-1-10-5-6:Nannie Parry Laird, b. Loch Laird, 4 Dec. 1872,"¼a trained nurse, having graduated as such from Columbia Hospital, Washington D.C., June 2, 1898, and is practising her profession in Lexington Va."
D-1-1-1-10-5-7:Mary Lewis Laird, b. Loch Laird, 31 Aug. 1877, ¼now resides with her mother in Lexington Va."
D-1-1-1-10-5-8:Lula Belle Laird, b. Lloch Laird, 24 March 1881, res. w/ mother.
(Paxton) "He moved with his father to Rockbridge County, Va., when about twelve years old and located at Locust Grove, on North River, just below, and near, the present city of Buena Vista.He was an extensive and prosperous farmer, an intlligent and useful citizen, and an Elder in the Falling Spring Presbyterian Church.
D-1-1-2:Jean (Jane) Edmundson
b.
d. apparently before 1798
m. apparently, Alexander Tedford
b.
0d. Rockbridge Co. VA, c. 1796
i.
D-1-1-2-1:Sarah Tedford
m. Rockbridge Co., 21 June 1796, Elihu Barckley
D-1-2:John Edmondson
b. before 1740
d.
There is no clear record of this John.Many researchers have tried to identify him as E-1-2:John, of the Borden Tract of Augusta Co., but this John was born not later than 1715, and is thus too old to be a son of David Turk.
However, it is very likely that some of the records hitherto associated with E-1-2: John belong instead to this John.Specifically, the following look likely:
21 May 1747.John Edmondson, leave to build a mill.Note that later on, David, s/o James Edmondson, was a miller, which may indicate that a family mill existed before David's, and that there was some family association with milling.Nothing in the specific records of E-1-2:John indicates that he was a miller.Against this would be the argument that this John would be very young in 1747, possibly born c. 1726.[3]
17 Aug. 1762.Appraisement of Andrew Duncan estate, by William Edmondson, John Edmondson, Samuel Buchanan, John Loggan.Walter Woods has discovered the original of this document, and the Edmondson signatures are definitely "Edmondson."The E-1-2 family would have used "Edmiston" at that time, and so this document must definitely belong to John and his brother William, even though the Andrew Duncan family has more associations with the E-1-2 family.
18 Sept. 1763.Samuel Hays to William Thomson, 100 acres "in" land of John Edmondson.Wits:William and George Buchanan.(Chalkley, III, 407).What exactly "in" means here needs to be deciphered.William Thompson had land adjoining that of David Edmondson, John's father.
20 Aug. 1765.Dedimus to take a deposition from John Edmondson "about to leave the colony."[4]E-1-2: John at that date might have been about to leave for Washington County, or perhaps elsewhere, since on that same date he executed some deeds apparently sorting out some of his lands.However, a move to Washington Co. would hardly be "out of the colony", and so this may refer to this John, about to join some of his family in SC, where they had gone a year or so earlier.
Stub Entries for Indents issued in payment of Claims against South Carolina Growing out of the Revolution:
p. 136.Book M, # 216.1 Oct. 1784.Mr John Edmundson late private in Alexanders
Troop W. Hamptons Regiment Sumpters Brigd State Troops.£ 94, pay & bounty due him
for Services in that Troop and interest from 1 Apr. 1782.Principal £ 94.Annual
interest, £ 6.11.7.
p. 106.Book O, # 653.2 May 1785.Mr. John Edminston, £ 79 sterling, Militia Duty
from 1780 to 1783, and for Waggon Service, in Militia, 1780 and 1781.Principal £ 79.
Annual interest £ 5.10.7.
There is an unplaced John Edmiston who died in Abbeville Dist., SC, 1789, who might fit this John.Against such a match are two arguments:first, this family consistently uses "Edmiston", not "Edmondson."Second, he seems to have married c. 1773, which would be a very late marriage for the John here.Here is his record, which we will tentatively place under the number of David Turk's John.Note:at the end of the account of John, note the data which indicates a different hypothesis for his origins.
D-1-2:John Edmiston
b.
d. Abbeville Dist., SC, 1789
m. Elizabeth __________
b.
d. Abbeville Dist. SC, between 23 Jan. and 7 Feb. 1807
i.
D-1-2-1:Andrew Edmiston, B.C. 1774?
D-1-2-2:John Edmiston
D-1-2-3:James Edmiston
D-1-2-4:Lydda (Lydia?) Edmiston
D-1-2-5:Lucy Edmiston (possibly)
Possibly one other daughter
There seems to be some connection between a John Edmiston, probably this one, the Logans, and a Heard family.These Heards came from Chester Co. PA, where they apparently lived very near various Edmistons, which might be some indication that this John came from PA rather than VA.
Edgefield Co. SC, 3 Sept. 1768.John Heard Jr. of Colleton/LeDay (Lidea, Lidy) to John Heard Sr., blacksmeith, 562 acres acquired 1765.Wits:James Heard, Elisha Brooks, John Logan.[5]
27 June 1777.Will of John Heard Sr. ["Jr." in inventory, which is correct], of 96 Dist., blacksmith.Wife Lydia, land on Wilson's Creek."All my children" [6 + 1 unborn, 3 sons, 3 daughters known].Excrs.Francis Logan, John Edmiston.Wits:Armstrong Heard, Charles Heard, Nat. Buchanan
Note also that Jane Miller Edmiston Sansom's grant of land came into the hands of Thomas Heard, who sold it in 1777.Thomas d. intestate, 1774, with John Heard, "smith", as his next of kin.
There is, of course, no proof that the John Edmiston here is the same one.However, it seems likely, and his presence, plus the presence of the name "Lydia" as the Heard widow and also as one of John's daughters suggests the possibility that John's wife Elizabeth was a Heard, d/o the John who d. 1777.Further, per Heard researchers, the widow Lydia was Lydia Logan, sister of Andrew Logan.They say she m. John Wardlaw, had 4 children by him, and later m. Thomas Brightman.
SOUTH CAROLINA - 1779
INDEXED BY LAST NAME, FIRST NAME
Compiled by: Paul R. Sarrett, Jr.
Revised: 11/09/[email protected]
SINDXL NameF NameDate CountySt.Township
E352EDMISTONJohn1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
E352EDMISTONMoses1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
28 May 1784, pr. 15 June 1784, Will of James Chiles.Children:Nancy, James, Henry.Wits:James Heard, John Edmiston, Henry Chiles.Adm., 2 July 1784, by James Chiles, Jr., William Huggins, George Heard, bond £ 2,000.00
No record has been discovered of land grants or deeds to John Edmiston.
7 March 1789, Will, John Edmiston.[7]Wife Elizabeth.Sons Andrew, John, James, unborn child, if boy, to get land.2/3's movable estate divided "amongest my hole children."Excrs.Elizabeth Edmiston, John Wardlaw.Wits:Victor, Isabel, and Joseph Mathews.No probate recorded.
Abbeville Co. SC, Census 1790:Elizabeth Edmiston, no m. 16+, 3 m 16-, 4 females.
Elizabeth m. 2), probably c. 1794, James Campbell. Abbeville Co. records show a bond, 13 Oct. 1794:Elizabeth Campell, w/o James, formerly Elizabeth Edmiston, James Campbell Sr., John Richmond, and Benjamin V. Posey bound for £ 500, to pay estate of John Edmiston to his children or their guardians, or when they come of age.Campbell signs x, Elizabeth signs Elizalth Capell.Wits:Andrew Edmiston, James Wardlaw.
20 Oct. 1794.John Edmiston estate sale.Andrew Edmiston bought most.Buyers include William and John Logan.
Box 20, pk. 416.23 Jan. 1807.Elizabeth Campbell, will.To son John Edmiston, daughter Lydda (no last name given), son James a bequest when he marries, Lucy Edmiston (no relationship given).Wits:Sam Mosely, Reuben Butters.Excrs.James Campbell, William Phillips.
7 Feb. 1807.Stephen Watson, James Smith, Christopher Watson, Abraham Roman, James Loveless to take inventory with William Phillips, excr.Returned 12 Feb.
Abbeville Co. SC, Census 1800, p. 21.Andrew Edmiston, 1 m 0-10, 1 16-26;2 f 0-10, 1 10-16, 1 16-26.
Andrew thus was born 1755-1774, but was under 16 in 1790 and thus born after 1774.Perhaps he actually was born close to 1774, married c. 1794/5, with 3 children by 1800.The 16-26 man in his 1800 household, thus b. 1774-84, might be his brother James.
Abbeville Co. SC, Census 1800.John Edmiston:1 m 16-26;1 f 10-16, 1 16-26.He would thus be born 1774-1784, married close to census time in 1800, and with a younger woman, perhaps a sister in his household.
Thus, although the place, the time, and the connections with Logans might argue for making this John the son of David Turk Edmiston, what can be deduced about John's children has them born from the mid-1770's on, which more often means a father born in the early 1750's.David Turk's John has to be born before 1740, and thus would be a very late marrier to be the John above.At the same time, this John is too old to be a grandson of David Turk Edmiston.There is, however, no other Edmiston family which seems to have a place for this John.
A Different Hypothesis
It is possible that he is from a different branch of the family, a branch not chronicled as far as I know..
Victor Matthews,his wife Isabella, and James Matthewswitnessed the will of John Edmiston in 1789.Obviously there is some connection between Victor and the Edmistons.Isabella is said to be an Edmiston from York Co. PA, and there are other Edmistons of unknown origin who connect to her.A Moses Edmiston witnesses the 1795 will of Victor Matthews.A Thomas B. And Lucy Caroline Edmiston, siblings, seem connected also.
Isabella Edmiston
b.
d.
m. Victor Matthews
b.
d. Abbeville Dist. SE 1795
I.
1- John Matthews
`3.James Matthews
3.Isaac Matthews
4.Esther Mathews
5.Ann Matthewspossibly Esther Ann)
6.Elizabeth Matthews
7.Rebeckah Matthew (possibly Elizabeth Rebeckah)
The following notice appeared in theEdmondson Family Genealogy Forum ,Posted by James D. Dabbs on July 06, 1998 at 16:03:37:In Reply to: Re: Moses 2 Edmondson (David1), b. c1740 posted by Steve Deitz on May 31, 1998
at 19:29:25:
I am descended from Victor MATTHEWS and Isabella EDMISTON? (EDMONDSON). These
families came from York Co., PA to Augusta Co., VA and on to Abbeville Co., SC before the
Revolution. Do you have any information on Isabella? Sea may have been a daughter of David Turk
EdmistonJames DabbsTuscumbia, AL
If Mr. Dabbs is correct, Isabella Matthews was an Edmiston/EdmondsonVictor died in 1795, and his will was witnessed by Moses Edmiston.David Turk Edmiston has no known daughter Isabella, although that was his wife’s name.However, it might be possible that David had more children after the importation of 1740.
Victor left a family of at least 6, some of whom may have been under age – at least some of them were not married.Among those apparently married was Elizabeth, and it might be possible that her husband was John Edmiston.
James E. Wooley, A Collection of Upper South Carolina Genealogical and Family Records, (1979), I, 203. has a summary of the will of Victor Matthews (Box 64, Pack 1550, Probate Judge Office, Abbeville SC.To beloved wife Isable her third of the moveable estate and her living on the land while a widow.To three sons John, James, Isaac, my land with the remainder divided amongst my children that is unmarried, the boys and girls to get alike, as to my married dtr Esther Ann, Elizabeth Rebekah, I leave five shillings each.Isable and Joseph Mathews excrs.31 Dec. 1795.Wits:William Wedgworth, Samuel McNeily, Moses Edmiston.Rec. 25 March 1796.To William Wedgworth, John Lumbis, John Irwin, John Conner, Thomas Pool, you or any three of you to repair unto all places as directed by Isable Matthew executrix.Dated 5 March 1796, signed James Wardlaw D.C.C.The above appraisers were certified before Charles Devenport, J.P.The inventory and appraisement was held 26 April 1796.With the sale on 24 April 1798.Buyers are:Isbel Matthews, David Black, John Fleming, Thomas Davis, James Fleming, James Campbell, Moses Edminston, Thomas Bartee, John Sims, Joseph McNeeley, John Wilson, Carr McGeehee, Robert Johnson Gulley, Thomas Cobb, Robert Buchanan, James
Parker, Stephen Watson, John Blackburn, John Irwin, Isaac Logan.[8]
Among those mentioned in Victor Matthew’s will is William Wedgworth. Amd that leads to still another possible connection to John Edmiston.
The following tell of a Thomas B. Edmiston and his sister Lucy Caroline Edmiston, both of whom came from Abbeville Dist. And both of whom m. Wedgworths.
Thomas B. Edmiston
b. SC 1801
d.
m.Grene Co. AL,c. 1838. Nancy Wedgworth d/o James & Ann Borden
b.
d.
i.
1: Martha Edmiston
2.James M. Edmiston
3.Calvin Edmiston
4: Thomas B. Edmiston Jr.
5: Zachariah Edmiston
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Thomas B. Edmiston & Nancy W. in Greene Co.,Al
Posted by: Phyllis WedgeworthDate: March 13, 2002 at 11:37:09
Thomas B. Edmiston was born 1801 in South Carolina (?). He married Nancy Wedgeworth around
1830 in Greene Co.,AL. Nancy was the daughter of James Wedgeworth, Senior and Ann Braden.
Nancy's brother Zachariah married a Lucy C. Edmiston in 1840 in Greene Co.,AL. Known children of
Thomas B. Edmiston and Nancy Wedgeworth are: Isaac; Martha; James M.; Calvin; Thomas, Junior;
and Zachariah, all born between 1831 & 1843.
Records show that Thomas B. Edmiston had first arrived in Greene Co.,Al in 1822 from Abbeville, SC.
Census records for 1830,1840,1850 all show him & family in Greene Co.,AL. The 1860 Census for
Greene Co. lists only wife Nancy & children. Does anyone know when Thomas died? And who are his
parents? Did they come from South Carolina? And were Thomas and Lucy related? Many thanks for
any help given. Phyllis
Lucy Caroline Edmiston
b. SC 1818
dal 16 June 1848, bur. Mt. Zion Cem., Greene Co. AL (Hale Co.)
m.1)Greene Co. AL, 22 Jan. 1840, Zachariah Wedgeworth, s/op James & Ann Borden
b. Abbeville SC, 1807
d. Greene Co. AL, 27 June 1840
I.
1- Zachariah Wedgworth Jr., b. 1840, d. 18549
m. 2) Greene Co. AL, 10 June 1843, Thomas T. Williams
b.
d.
I.>
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Lucy C. Edmiston & Each Wedgeworth, Greene Co.,AL
Posted by: Phyllis WedgeworthDate: March 13, 2002 at 11:25:56
I have information on a Lucy Caroline Edmiston, born in 1818 in South Carolina (?) who married
Zachariah Wedgeworth in Greene Co.,AL 28 January 1840. Each was the son of James Wedgeworth,
Senior and Ann Braden. Each was born 1807 in Abbeville, SC and died 27 June 1840 in Greene
Co.,AL. A child, Zachariah Wedgeworth, Junior was born in 1840 a few months after his father died.
The younger Each only lived until 1849 when he too died at age eight.
Lucy remarried in Greene Co.,AL 10 June 1843 to Thomas T. Williams. Lucy died in Jan 16, 1848 at
aged 30. This tragic family group are all buried in the Mount Zion Cemetery in Greene Co.(now Hale
Co.) AL. The child Each's grave is one of the largest in the cemetery and his tombstone has a very sad
and melancholy inscription on it, fitting for the sorrow & grief felt for the death of such a young child.
DoThomas and Lucy belong to the family of John Edmiston?Are they brother and sister – Lucy is 117 years younger than Thomas.Did this whole batch, or some part of them, come to SC from York Co. PA.I know of no Edmistons in York Co. At this time, but I don’t know if anyone has searched there.
D-1-3:William Edmondson
b. before 1740
d.
The record of this William is equally obscure, further complicated by the presence of so many Williams in early Augusta County.
23 Nov. 1753.Road crew, road from north fork James River near John Mathews' to Renix's Road, includes James Edmundson, William Edmundson.[9]This could be the James and William of this family--the location seems right--this early, it could not be the sons of Matthew Edmiston, who at this time had some land in the southern part of the Borden Tract.
17 Aug. 1762.Appraisement of estate of Andrew Duncan by William Edmondson, John Edmondson, John Loggan, Samuel Buchanan. As noted above, the signatures here show that this cannot be the E-1-2 family.
There is a good possibility that William went south to SC c. 1764.His brother David II certainly went there, and his brother Moses probably did so also.
29 Nov. 1764, William Edmundson, 150 acre grant, Granville Dist.[10]Grant, 27 Oct. 1766, in Long Cane Creek next to Alexander Caron's 2000 acres.
18 March 1772, William Edmiston, 100 acres, Berkeley Dist. [11]
SC State Grants, I, 125, 15 Oct. 1784.William Edmondson paid £ 20 for 200 acres in 96 District on Bushy Creek, a branch of Saluda River, on all sides vacant.XXI, 485, 3 Dec. 1787, William Edmundson, 152 acres, 96 Dist.State Plats, XXI, 180, 16 March 1787, Wm. Edmondson, 152 acres, 96 District.
There is a William Edmundson in Census 1790, 96 District, Pendleton Lists.
It seems to be impossible to trace this land, which fell into Abbeville Dist. where deeds are not extant.No other SC references to William have been discovered, which makes it possible that he came back to Virginia at some later date.There are unplaced Williams later on:
1-Capt. William Edmiston, d. 1780.Probably not suitable for this position, since he used the "Edmiston" spelling and married into the E-1-2 family.
2-William Edmiston of Rockbridge Co., d. 1782.Also doubtful, since he does not use the "Edmondson" spelling.Also, he has no son named David, nor is the name prevalent in that family.
3-Allegedly there was an Edmondson in Botetourt Co., dead by the early 1790's with no record left of his first name, but by tradition said to be William.He is the progenitor of a Blount Co. TN family of Edmundsons, and one of his sons, possibly the eldest, was named David.
D-1-4:Rachel Edmiston
b.
d.
m. probably, Alexander Logan
b.
d.
I. (speculative)
D-1-4-1:Margaret H. Logan
m.D-1-6-1:David Edmiston, q.v.
D-1-4-2: David Logan
This is speculative:there is a Rachel among David's probable children;Margaret H. Logan was said to be her husband's cousin;this is a logical way to solve that problem.Alexander Logan's wife was definitely a Rachel:
Augusta Co., Deeds, 26 March 1763.Alexander Logan/Rachel to James Kennedy, £ 35, 237 acres, adj. Thomas and John Logan.Wit:Hugh Wardlaw
The family apparently moved south.Alexander Logan received a grant of 200 acres, Dist. 96 on Brush Creek, waters of Saluda River, 1 Aug. 1785.
Dist. 96 SC, 29 Nov. 1780.Jane Sansom, David Logan and Alexander Logan of Long Cane bound for £ 14,000, as admin. bond for Jane Sansom and David Edmiston her son for estate of John Sansom.Signed Jane (x) Sansom, David Logan, Alex'r Logan, David Edmiston.Wits:John Logan, Catherine Noble.
Alexander and David are in Abbeville Dist., SC, Census 1800.
Blount Co. TN, DB II, 288, is a deed to the trustees of Logan's Chapel, a Methodist-Episcopal Church.David Logan is a trustee, and the other trustees include D-1-6-5:James Edmiston
Logan Miscellany
Alexander Logan, R.S. private, 1763-1856, m. 1) Mary Hyde, 2) Nancy Merriwether
Francis Logan, Capt. SC, 1734-1826, m. Hannah Trimble
William Logan, Pvt. NC and SC, 1748-1833, m. Jane Margaret Black
William Logan, Pvt. SC, 1762-1838, m. Eleanor Craig
William Logan, 1726-1802, m. 1) Mary Baker, 2) Margaret Crockett
Hugh Wardlaw, Capt. SC, 1740-1802, m. 1) Elizabeth Coalter, 2) Mary Logan[12]
One David Logan made a will 8 May 1826 and died by 1830, leaving widow Hannah, children:
Alexander and John (in Blount Co. TN 1830), James R., David L., John M., Hannah M., Racheal, Elizabeth, Peggy Ann;gdts.Rosanah Thompson, Rosanah Logan.Wits:Peter Brakbill, Isaiah Thomson
Cf. D-1-6-5-1:Mary Ann Edmiston, who probably m. the Alexander Logan of the preceding will.
Lawrence Co. AR.1833.Will of Charles Logan. Estate divided between Lotte, Jonathan, Charles, Massy,. Frank and Mason Logan, and Priscilla (Logan) Edmondson, gdn. James Campbell.[13]
D-1-5:Moses Edmiston
b.
d.
Again, Moses cannot be placed with certainty.He apparently had land early in Augusta/Rockbridge, sold by a deed not recorded and therefore of uncertain date.
July 1805.John Stuart, age 65, deposes at Brownsburg, that executors of Borden Jr. conveyed 230 acres to Robert McElrath and that Moses Edmiston was the first settler on the tract, which was several years after the death of Borden Jr. [1753], that Moses Edmiston sold to Matthew Morehead who sold to John McElrath who was the same as Robert McElrath.[14]
Lists from Fairfax Co. VA, 1750-1763, for provisions to the militia of Augusta County:
Moses Edmiston and others, 4 shillings each
Moses Edmiston and David Edmiston, 8 shillings each
William Edmonston, sergeant, 3.12.8[15]
Since Moses vanishes from the records of Augusta/Rockbridge Cos., it seems probable that he also headed south in the early 1760's:
South Carolina Grant Index(Greene)
Colonial Plats, VII, 488.15 Nov. 1764.Survey, Moses Edmiston, 100 acres, Granville Dist., Bk. 7, p. 488.Ibid., XIV, 529, 5 June 1772.Moses Edmiston, 100 acres, Granville,
SC Royal Grant, XII, 324, 3 June 1765, Moses Edmonston, 100 acres "situate as is supposed in Granville County on the North West Fork of Long Cane which in the Summer time is about Nine Feet wide and about Ten Inches Deep Bounded South Eastwardly on Land laid out to Moses Davis the other three sides thereof on Vacant Lands."
SC Royal Grants, XXVIII, 382.12 Feb. 1773.Moses Edmunston, "One Hundred Acres Situate in Granville County Surveyed for him 5 June 1777 on the Waters of Calhoun's Creek bounded Eastwardly by land laid out to John Strain towards the West by land of Aaron Heets [hirts?] Southward by land laid out to Gillmore and vacant land and all other sides by Vacant Lane."
SC Memorials, VI, 481, 2 July 1765, refers to another 100 acres, Granville Co.;Memorials, XII, 254, 21 June 1773, also 100 acres, Granville Dist.
Again, it has been impossible to determine what became of that land, but Moses is not listed in Census 1790.
A list of the inhabitants of the Old 96th District in SC for 1779:
Moses Edmiston
John Edmiston
SC Military Records, Record A.A. 2160 A.(endorsement?)Moses Edmiston, his Account of 59 Days Militia Duty in 1781, Eight Pounds, Eight Shillings sixpence three farthings. (small slip of paper) "This is to certify that the Bearer Moses Edmiston Served in Publick Service forty-five Days Horsemans Duty under James Garvin [Darvin?] and in James Thompsons Company, per me, James Garvins hand [?]."Written underneath the signature:"This is not MR. Garvin's writing."(another slip)August 1984.This is to Certify that the Bearer Moses Edmiston was fourteen Days in (illegible).John Thompson".(Another page)."...To Moses Edmiston for Service under General Henderson in the year 1782.To forty-five Days Horse Service....""Personally came Moses Edmiston and being Duly Sworn (illegible).. this 22d of Januey 1784.James Thompson."
31 Dec. 1795.Abbeville Co.Will of Victor Matthews witnessed by Moses Edmiston[16].Moses is also listed as a buyer at the estate sale, 24 Apr. 1798.The Matthews family is also connected somehow to John Edmiston of Abbeville:see D-1-2.
It has been argued that Moses returned to Virginia during the Revolutionary War, since W-l:Moses Edmiston turns up in Washington Co. in 1778, buying land from E-1-2-1:Col. William Edmiston.However, note that a Moses is listed in Old 96th District in 1779.Also, obviously it would be difficult for a Moses based in VA to return to SC to serve as a soldier in 1781 and 1782, plus claiming for service in 1784.Assuming that the soldier is the same Moses as the landowner, he would seem to have stayed in SC until at least 1784.However, he is not visible in Census 1790.
On the other hand, there are enough Robinson connections in the VA Moses' family to make it possible that his wife Rachel came from Virginia, rather than SC or somewhere back east.This Moses named his apparently eldest son David.At present, there seems to be no way to solve this problem.
D-1-6:David Edmiston
b.
d.NC, probably 1765[17]
m. Augusta/Rockbridge Co. VA, perhaps c. 1754, Jane Miller, d/o Alexander
b.
d. after 1792
I.
*D-1-6-1:David Edmiston
D-1-6-2:Alexander Edmiston, b. prob. 1755-74, possibly unm. s.p.Alexander is at present untraced.
Although the Sansom letter says that all of Jane's children were married by the time of their
mother'sdeath, it seems doubtful that Alexander was.We assume that Alexander is the male aged
26-45 in the household of his brother David in 1800, and one of the males over 45 in David's Lincoln
Co. TN household in 1820.There is no wife for him in Census 1800, although there are two females
26-45 in 1820, but these would appear to bedaughters of David.
D-1-6-3:Ann Edmiston
m. David Presley, b. 1764, d. 1834[18].The Sansom letter gives the marriage.
*D-1-6-4:John Edmiston, b. 13 Feb. 1761/2
*D-1-6-5:James Edmiston, b. 13 Feb. 1765
With David, we are on substantially firmer ground, thanks to a letter of 1842 by Samuel D. Sansom, in which he describes his family.Sansom's mother, Jane Miller Edmiston Sansom, was, he says, the second daughter of Alexander Miller who emigrated from Ireland a few years before her birth to Augusta County.She there married David Edmiston and bore the 5 children above listed.They moved to NC, to a county which looks like "Sparklinburg"--perhaps Mecklenburg?--where David died.Jane continued on to SC and there married John Sansom, by whom she had another 5 children:Nancy, William, Samuel D., Hannah M. and Andrew, the last two of whom died young.The letter says that Jane lived to see all her children married, and the marriages are given except for Alexander.
"By virtue of a precept from John Troup Esq. of ______bearing date Jan. 6th day 1767, I have administered and laid out for Jane Edmiston a plantation or tract of land containing one hundred & fifty acres situated lying and being in Granville County on the waters of the N.W. fork of Long Cane butting & bounding on the S.E. side of land laid out for Nathaniel Alexander all other sides vacant lands and has such shapes & marks as the above plat represents.Certified for the 5th day of March 1767.Recorder 1st October 1774 in Pickens Dist.Thomas Heard
Jane held this land only briefly.31 July/1 Aug. 1777.Thomas Heard, house carpenter of Colleton, to Christopher Williams, distiller, £ 150, 150 acres, Granville, on northwest fork of Long Cane originally surveyed for Jane Edminstone on 5 March 1767, and granted sd. Heard on 21 Feb. 1772.Wit:Thomas Pattison, James E. Miller[20]
Jane m. 2nd, John Sansom, who was killed in 1780 in the Revolutionary War.
Dist. 96 SC, 29 Nov. 1780.Jane Sansom, David Logan and Alexander Logan of Long Cane bound for £ 14,000, as admin. bond for Jane Sansom and David Edmiston her son for estate of John Sansom.Signed Jane (x) Sansom, David Logan, Alex'r Logan, David Edmiston.Wits:John Logan, Catherine Noble.
SC Rev. War Records, AA 6754.15 Apr. 1775.John Sansom, p. 3F.This is to certify that Jean Sansom wife of John Sansom dec'd is entitled to a grant of 200 acres of land.Certificate that John Sansom served as a soldier in an Independent Company in this State until he was captured by the Enemy and that he was killed afterwards riding express by the Torys.25 May 1785.Jean Sansom, widow and excrx, authorizes Capt. John Calhoun to receive indents due to John Sansom dec'd for his service to the public, part in the Independent Companies under Benjamin Tutt & also in militia in Col. Anderson's Reg't.... The Militia acc'ts returned to the Auditor's office by Col. Anderson. Robert Anderson certified Jean Sansom's signature.
C.T. Deed B-4, 406.21 Feb. 1772.Thomas Heard, house carpenter of Colleton, to Christopher Williams, distiller, £ 150, 180 acres, Granville, on northwest fork of Long Cane, originally surveyed for Jane Edminston, 5 March 1767, and granted to Thomas Heard, 21 Feb. 1772.Wits:Thomas Pattison, James E. Miller[21]
7 May 1787.State of SC to Jean Sansom, grant of 200 acres in 96 District, below ancient boundary line on branches of Beaver Dam Creek, waters of Savanna River, bounding southeastward on David Edmiston's land, northward & northeastward on John [Wodges?Logan's?] land, all other sides on vacant land.
Abbeville Dist. SC, Census 1790, Jane Sansom, 3 m 16+, 1 m 16-, 2 f.
Where and when Jane died in ot yet known.There is apparently a mention of her in 1792, the last known at present.
D-1-6-1:David Edmiston III.
b. prob. VA, apparently before 1755
d. apparently Lincoln Co. TN, between 1824 and 1827
m. presumably SC, D-1-4-1:Margaret H. Logan
b.
d.
I.
D-1-6-1-1:James Edmiston, b. Abbeville Dist. SC 7 Aug. 1798, d. probably IL, after 1850
m. prob. Lincoln Co. TN, 11 Aug. 1825, D-1-6-5-2:Jane M. Edmiston, d/o James Sr. and
Nancy Keown, q.v.
*D-1-6-1-2:David M. or W. Edmiston
others
David was a Revolutionary War Soldier.SC File AA, 2159, 395 Q 86, BGIV 324, as copied by Dorothy Click Cook:
15 Apr. 1785.Thomas Farrar, Lt., Ind. Co., certifies that David Edmiston is entitled to a
grant of 200 acres as a soldier in an Independent Company.
3 Dec. 1785.David Edmiston receipts 2 years' interest on the within indent.
6 May 1787.An Act of the Gen. Assembly:Mr. David Edmiston rec'd 23 pds. 10 shillings &
4 pence farthing-sterling for 439 days duty in Capt. Tutt's Ind.Co. in 1779.Rec'd Peter
Bremar
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