History of Benjamin Tudor, Son of John Tedder
Over the years there have been many inputs in the Tedder and Tudor Family Genealogy Forum on John Tedder whose inventory of estate was listed in 1721 in Surry Virginia and his two sons, Benjamin and John Tuder.John Tudor’s children are identified in his North Carolina will and their descendants are fully identified on the internet.However, never before has anyone tried to identify in one place the children and grandchildren of Benjamin Tudor, to include Benjamin Jr’s children.I will give my interpretations based on DNA, location, association, and time lines.My information is presented in two parts.Part 1 outlines, in one place, all documented evidence relating to Benjamin.Part two gives my thoughts on Benjamin, his children and grandchildren, to include who I believe are the children of Benjamin Jr.
PART 1.
1695.Approximate birth date given by several researchers for John Tedder.
1718.Approximate birth date of Benjamin Tudor.Birth believed to be in Surry County, VA.
1720 late or early 1721.Death of John Tedder, father of John and Benjamin Tudor.
1721, 1 April.Listing of inventory of estate of John Tedder. John Tedder’s widow and mother of John and Benjamin identified as being married to Henry Rose.
1748/9.Benjamin believed to be living in Isle of Wight in Virginia.
1748, 1 Nov.Indenture made between John Jones and Henry Rose, step-father of Benjamin and John, of Wight County VA for 100 pounds, 342 acres on a branch of Poplar Creek.Proved in court 5 April 1749.Deed Book 3, page 552.
1750, 27 June.Benjamin living on 200 acres on Popular Creek, Brunswick County, VA, deeded to him by step-father Henry Rose.
1751.Birth year of Benjamin Tutterton, private in North Carolina militia.Lived in Orange County NC 1820/30.I include this input as a possibility for Benjamin Jr because the birth date is approximately the same as Benjamin Jr and I believe Benjamin Jr was in the militia: See 1771 below.Also, Benjamin Tedder in Beaufort in 1755 was already grown and Benjamin Tedder of Montgomery and Richmond was born ten years after Benjamin Jr.In addition, there are no other Benjamin Tudors, Tedders, Tettertons, etc., other than our Benjamin Tudor or Benjamin Jr documented anywhere in North Carolina through 1790.
1752-60.Benjamin listed in Vestry Book of St Andrews Parish as resident of Brunswick County VA.
1762, May 30.Benjamin and Henry Tudor witnessed will of William Watkins in Sussex County Va.William mentions son-in-law Henry Tudor.Both Henry and Benjamin lived in Albermarle Parish, the same place Benjamin owned 119 acres of land sold in 1775.
1771. John and Benjamin Tuder members of Granville County militia. Capt James Yancy’s company of foot soldiers belonging to regiment commanded by Col Richard Henderson.(Per Tudor research, a John Tudor served two other tours of duty in the North Carolina militia.He went on an expedition against the Cherokees under Capt Nathaniel Snipes.He also served under Capt William Hicks, Col Taylor, and Generals Greene and Morgan at the battle of Gilford Court House, NC.As John Senior signed an oath of allegiance to the Crown, it is not possible that he fought against the British at Gilford Court House, although he may have been in the militia earlier.John Jr he would only have been around seventeen in 1771.We know from John Junior’s pension application that he was in the militia.So if it was John Jr in 1771 then the Benjamin would most likely be Benjamin Jr serving with his cousin. It unlikely Benjamin Sr who would be around fifty-three would be serving as a foot soldier; in addition, he would not have left his large farm in Sussex County VA for over four years.
1775, 16 November.Benjamin and Mary Tedder of Granville County, North Carolina, to John Avent of Albermarle Parish, Sussex County (VA), 119 acres, 34 Pounds.Deed book E, p 380-381.
1777, 14 April. Beck (Rebecca), daughter of Benjamin Tudor, married Charles Moore.
1777, 20 March.Sussex County VA Will Book C, 1772-1785, Page 237:Account of Estate of Mr William Burrow, decd, audited by William Claiborne, Sr, and Will Hines shows payment to Benjamin Tedder (and numerous others)…
1779, 19 October.Sarah Tudor (abt 1754-1849) daughter of Benjamin Tudor married Samson Harp.Bond: John Harp; witness John Pulliam.
1779.Benjamin and James Tudor buyers at estate sale of Aquilla Snelling.
1781, May.Estate sale of Mary Rose, mother of Benjamin and John.Benjamin Tudor documented at sale as Benjamin Senior, intimating that a Benjamin Jr was at sale.
1781, 20 June.James Tudor, son of Benjamin Tudor, married Joanna Martin.Bond, John Moore, witness Asa Searcy.
1781, August.Benjamin and Mary Tudor witness to will of Runnold Brightwell in Granville.
1782.August.Inventory of John Tudor’s estate.Bond on Benjamin Tudor and John Moore Adams for S93-12 (?) currency.
1797.Benjamin Tuder witness to land deed in February in Chatham County.
PART 2
I believe Benjamin Sr went to Sussex County VA around 1759/60 and bought his 119 acres in Albermarle Parish near Henry Tudor, who was approximately the same age as Benjamin.As there was no other Benjamin Tudor or Tedder in Albermarle Parish it has to be him who was witness in 1762 to the Watkins will along with his neighbor Henry Tudor.Sometime before 1775 Benjamin and his wife went to Granville County NC to scout for land; as no record is available on where he lived he probably lived with his mother, Mary Rose, and brother John or on their 160 acres on the East side of Fishing Creek.After Benjamin and his wife returned and sold their land in Sussex County, I believe they lived close to Granville County, perhaps in Chatham as he or junior witnessed a land deed there in 1797 and three of his sons are in Chatham in 1800.
Tudor researchers identified Rebecca (Beck), Sarah, and James Tudor as being children of Benjamin and also identified John and William as possible children; then there was always a possibility of a Benjamin Jr.I added Harmon Tudor as another child of Benjamin and Mary based on timeline, location, association, and DNA.First, birth dates; James was born around 1760 according to Tudor researchers and most researchers list 1762 as a birth date for Harmon—which is as good of a guess as any.One input on the LDS site has Harmon being born in Granville; but he would have been born in Albermarle County, Sussex, VA, as his father was there in 1762.Next Harmon lived in the same area where his Uncle John lived and where his brother James is documented in tax records and census.Also the Harp and Moore who married Harmon’s sisters are documented in the same area.Then Harmon is listed in the Chatham1800 census with two of his brothers.Harmon also named his children after his father, uncle, and brothers: William, Benjamin, and John.Lastly, John Tudor’s two son’s, Henry and John, descendants have taken the 67 marker DNA test; Henry’s descendant is off only one genetic distance at 67 markers from me, a Harmon and to my satisfaction, a Benjamin descendant, and John’s descendant is off only two genetic distances from me.In addition, as identified by a Tudor researcher, who compared DNA results, there are common mutations between john's descendants and me, a Harmon and Benjamin descendant, that indicate a common ancestor, John Tedder.Hard to beat!Harmon’s children, except one daughter, and their children were documented by Ernest Tedder and are listed on the internet.
Benjamin older children, except, as I believe, Benjamin Jr, don’t show up in North Carolina until after Benjamin Sr. sold his land in Virginia in 1775.One son, William Tedder, left Virginia and went to Georgia and was in the Revolutionary War there, as documented in Georgia’s Roster of the Revolution compiled by Lucian Lamar Knight.In addition, as previously listed on the Tedder Family Genealogy Forum, he is listed in 1832 in the Georgia land lottery as a Revolutionary War soldier.Benjamin’s son William was erroneously listed on the internet as being born in 1735 near Richmond, VA.The correct birth date by 1830 Georgia census data would more likely be around 1755.William, through his son Benjamin W’s descendant matches me perfectly at 37 out of 37 DNA markers, which is a match seldom equaled.William returned to Cumberland County, NC, in the 1780s where he is documented several times and married Martha Redding.He had daughter Betsy born 5 Mar 1780, Nancy born 17 Sep 1786, Littleton born 30 June 1790, Benjamin W born 10 Feb 1796 near Raleigh in Wake County, and Elizabeth, date unknown. William and brother-in-law William Redding of Cumberland County were selected to lay off a road in Wake County in 1784.I previously listed the will of William Redding on the Tedder Family Genealogy Forum.William and brothers John and Harmon are on the 1800 Chatham census together.So where is William living in Chatham in 1800?According to deeds recorded in the Register of Deeds Office of Chatham County, his brother John either gave him or sold him 75 acres in 1799 on Fork of Buckhorn and Beaver Creek. His brother, John Tedder, was documented as Tuder when he received 484 acres through the state in Chatham (Entry date 1 Mar 1779, issue date 31 March 1780, on Great Beaver Creek of New Hope).William later sold his land and moved on to Robeson County and is on the 1810 census; in 1820 he is in the household of his son, Benjamin W in Robeson.In 1830 he was still in Benjamin's household in Laurens GA and is listed as between 70 and 80 years old.William, Benjamin, and Littleton won land in the GA land lottery: 1832, William Tedder of Morrison's district, Rev War soldier, won lot 160 in District 12 in Section 3 of the GA land lottery.William passed in Georgia in 1834 as documented by son Benjamin W.I have information on Littleton and Benjamin W is anyone is interested.
Benjamin’s son James who lived in the same area as Harmon and the men who married his sisters disappears after 1792.All of his cousins, John Tudor’s children, except one and his aunt left North Carolina and went to what became Madison County KY for free land.Maybe James followed them, moved elsewhere, or passed on.
John initially was in Wake County before receiving 484 acres on Great Beaver Creek in Chatham County.His name changed to Tedder in the 1790 and 1800 census.John in 1790 is documented with one son and nine females.The son has to be James W.Specifically, in 1790 the son is identified as between 0-16; in 1800 there is no son listed and a James W is listed in the census in the same district as between 16 and 26.In addition, in deeds listed in the Register of Deeds Office in Chatham, John perhaps gave or sold James 100 acres on the side of Great Beaver Creek.I have information on James W’s children if anyone is interested.Don’t know what happened to John after 1800.
According to Tudor researchers Benjamin didn’t get married to around 1750 and there could be more children than identified by them.I believe there is at least an eighty percent chance that Hannah Tedder who on 28 February 1785 married Jacob Moonehan could be Benjamin’s daughter.She could well have been born within two to three years after Harmon, had the Tedder name, and was in Wake County where other Tedders were identified (William, John, and I believe, Benjamin Jr).The big issue is the name Hannah; Benjamin lived near Henry Tudor in Virginia and one of Henry’s daughters was named Hannah.Benjamin would have known Hannah and could have named his daughter Hannah after his friend’s daughter.The odds on Solomon being a son of Benjamin are not very great.From what I can find Solomon was not initially documented as Tedder but Teddis, was identified as being born in Johnston County, NC, and was identified as a poor boy apprenticed to Moses Powel for the blacksmithing trade.Only one of his seven children was given a name associated with Benjamin’s children.He could have been a son of either James or Micaigah Tedder documented in Johnston County militia in 1776.In 1779 both are listed as Tudor in the Johnston Militia. In the column showing date died, there is a 1779L for both James and Micaigah.See Johnston County Soldiers contributed by Jerome Tew.If we could get Solomon’s descendents to take DNA tests we could learn more.
Now, Benjamin Jr who I believe certainly existed and who settled in Wake County, NC.Starting in the 1790’s and continuing into 1800 stray Tedders start coming of age, especially in or from Wake County that we don’t know who was their father.Specifically, we know the children of Harmon, William, and John Tedder and we know the children and grandchildren of George, George Jr, and Thomas Tedder who lived in Dobbs.Examples of these new Tedders are Elisha born around 1773 in Wake County.If you look at Elisha’s children’s names you get a shock: there is a Mary who may have been named after his grandmother, Mary Rose.Daughters Sarah and Rebecca named after his aunts, and James, John, and William after his uncles.Anne Tedder, born near Raleigh in Wake County in 1778 who married Pearson Brown in 1799 (there is also a possibility that Anne was one of the eight daughters of John Tedder), Elizabeth Tedder born in 1783 in Wake (at this time John lived in Chatham), then there is Stephen who is in Chatham in 1800, Jesse in Johnston in 1807, and Penny Tedder who married Archibald Parnold 1808 in Johnston County.
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