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Hi, it's been awhile since you posted this query but thought I'd try and help. The 1930 census for Oneida, Utica County, NY has the following: Thomas Sunderlin age 25, wife Ester age 18, son Thomas Jr. age crossed out, looks to be a baby, Elizabeth Farrell, mother, age 40 widowed, and James Sunderlin, age 24, brother. Not sure if it's your family but sounds like an awful lot of similarities. If you'd like me to try and help you further, I would need the names of your grandfather, his brothers, etc. Feel free to contact me directly at LSDGen@aol.com. Good Luck, Laura