STARR WITH JUDAH, JENNINGS, FISH (FISCH), BLACK
My Mills Co. Iowa line is as follows: Father is KENNETH V. STARR: grandfather is VARDEMAN (or Vardiman) WESLEY(always called JOE) Starr, his wife Lucy Ann BLACK: ggfather is SAMUEL MARTIN STARR and second wife, Margarete (or Marguerite FISH (or Fisch) Walker (Walker is first marriage name): gggfather is variously listed as ITHAMER, ITHMAR, ITHMER, J. THOMAS, ANTHONY, ARTHANIER, ARTHANE, THANE, THAME, ARTHAMUS or HOMER!!!!. I have seen several actual written records from census and marriage data, and it seems that his real name is actually ARTHANIER OR ARTHAMER. He worked for Union Pacific and signed his timesheets Thane or Thame. I know he was married to ELIZABETH JUDAH (I know she is a TSCHUDI from Lawrence, Indiana). Thier children included Emanuel Starr, Effie Starr, Nancy Starr, Leander Starr, Leander G. Starr, Albert Starr, John Starr, Mariah Starr, Charles Willmut (or Willmurt) Starr. and William Starr. I also know that he was listed with SAMUEL STARR and wife NANCY on the 1850 MARION CO. IOWA CENSUS AS Follows:
Samuel Starr, 38, Nancy Starr, 41, ARTHANUS OR ARTHANIER, 21, Sarah Starr, 18, Nancy Starr, 18, Mary Starr, 14, Leander Starr, 9, Selena Starr, 8, Jesse J. Starr, 2. I KNOW THAT SEVERAL GENEALOGISTS HAVE POSTED (WITHOUT PROOF) THIS SAMUEL STARR AS BEING THE YOUNGEST SON OF JOHN STOEHR AND CATHERINE JOBE. MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL OF THE OLDER COUSINS IN THIS LINE AND THEY ALL SAY THAT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY STORIES ABOUT THEM BEING GERMAN, BUT EVEN WHEN I WAS LITTLE IT WAS ALWAYS SAID THAT WE ARE PART INDIAN AND THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL METHODIST MINISTERS IN OUR LINE. ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE DISPUTE OF ITHAMER'S NAME, AND HIS BEING THE OLDEST SON OF A COUPLE WHO DID NOT MARRY UNTIL HE WAS ALMOST 2 YEARS OLD, AND SAMUEL BEING ONLY 17 WHILE NANCY WAS 20.IF ANYONE HAS REAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS FAMILY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BEING A STOEHR/STARR, BUT WANT VARIFICATION EITHER WAY, AND HOPEFULLY, SOME MYSTERIES SOLVED.