Re: Frederick Starnes in SW Virginia
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Re: Frederick Starnes in SW Virginia
Bill Willis 8/20/08
As for the Killing of the Starnes Brothers by Indians, Joseph stated in his Pension record (S7600) that his uncle, father and brother-in-law were killed and he made his escape back to Ft Boonesboro. I have an original copy of this and will have to read it over once more.
There is documented evidence as well. Col. Whitney documented the so-called "Starns Defeat" and describes coming upon the bodies of one Frederick Starn, whose eyes were picked out by birds; Joseph Starns having had his heart removed from his chest and the Michael Moyer missing a foot. These are in the Kentucky archives and I do have a copy of these papers.
The land that you speak of was left by Valentine Starnes (1722), first born son of Frederick Starnes (1700 - 1774. In his will, Valentine left some land (I think it was almost 1,000 acres) to his brother's (Frederick II 1724-1779) oldest son, John. John Starnes, also known as Capt. John Starnes, is my 6th Great Grandfather.
Capt. John Starnes was born ca. 1745 in SW Virginia and died around 1780. He is believed to have died during the Revolutionary War at the Battle of Camden, also known as "Gates Defeat." His service as a Captain is proven via several Pension Statements by those that served under him.
When Capt. John Starnes died, all his land went to his oldest son, Frederick Starnes (1772-1851), who is my 5th Great Grandfather. That was the tradition at that time.
As far as Mary Goldman, most research has her being born circa 1703. I have not researched the Goldman line extensively but I will now. She is believe to be married (by most researchers) to Frederick I (1700 - 1774). Frederick died in/near Sulpher Springs, VA and there is a monument place in the Sulpher Springs Cemetery.
Most also believe that Mary Carlock/Guerlach, was the wife of Frederick II/Jr (1724 -April 7, 1779). In his will, it reads only as "Mary", as his wife.
As far as looking for absolute proof, any genealogist will tell you that this is not possible for everything. How many marriage records do you think you will find dating back to the 1700's? Few and far between is the answer. Family bibles, stories and legends is where most of the so-called "records" come from. Finding absolute proof would be great, but highly unlikely.
I will help you out in anyway I can due to the fact that this is my family line. I will be in further contact as I secure more information for you.
Sincerely,
Scotty Starnes
Concord, NC
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Re: Frederick Starnes in SW Virginia
Bill Willis 8/20/08