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Nathaniel G Carter Fauquier Co., VA
Posted by: Patricia G Carter (ID *****9201) Date: March 19, 2013 at 02:39:16
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Nathaniel G Carter
Claim No. 417118

Approved

“Claims of Loyal Citizen for Supplies furnished during the rebellion”

Mr. Carter appears to have been a Union Man. His son James Francis Carter, his son-in-law Moses Thorpe went into the Union Army by his advice and consent. He also persuaded Thomas Thorpe to enlist. - Silas Thorpe who was a soldier in the Union Army testifies strongly to his loyalty-says he (Thorpe) went with a scout of the 8th IL at midnight to claimant’s house and got from him information of a scouting party of Mosby’s men, their number and location and so were enabled to attack them successfully the next day.
We find him loyal.
The Commissioners of Claims
Act of Congress, March 3, 1871

It is hereby certified, that on the 22 day of May 1873, at Orleans, in the county of Fauquier and State of Virginia , personally came before me the following persons, viz:
Nathaniel G Carter Claimant,
G W Z Black Counsel, or Attorney
And Silas Thorpe , Moses Thorpe
For the purpose of hearing in the above entitled cause.

My name is Nathaniel Carter, my age 54 years, my residence Fauquier Co., in the State of Virginia, and my occupation a Farmer; I am the claimant, and have a beneficial interest in the claim.

To question No 2. I live on my own land in Fauquier Co. I own 160 acres. 100 acres of which is under cultivation the rest in woodland, I did not change my residence or occupation during that time.

To question No 3. -39 Answer No to all

To question No 40. I sympathized with the Union , I felt and spoke my opinion, that they ought to go into the Union side, I persuaded a few to go into the Union Army, my son James Francis , Moses Thorpe my son-in-law, Thomas Thorpe. I did not vote, at all on ______ the ordinance of secession , after the ordinance of secession was adopted I still adhered to the Union Cause.

To question No 41. I do so solemnly declare, I was born in Fauquier Co., Virginia. I have never filed a Bankruptcy .

The two horses charged, were taken the same day. I was present and saw them both taken, one was taken out of the stable, I think they were taken in the fall of the year. I can’t say what year it was, one was taken out the sable, the other out of the wagon. An officer came there and said he had orders from General Stoneman to take any horses that were fit for the cavalry . The Army was _____ by General Stoneman, they were taking horses all around there. Mr. Thorpe and my sons was present when he took the horses. They took the mare from the wagon, and the horse from the stable, I saw them take the horse too, my two sons saw them take him, there was only one soldier when they took the horse, he said he had orders to take all horses he came across, as their horses were getting broke down, I tried to keep that horse to finish my ploughing my corn, but he said he must take him, all these men were riding when they took these horses the mare they took from the wagon they led away with them, the horse they took away from the stable, they rode away, the man that took him came walking with a bridle in his hand., he put his own bridle on the horse. They took the horses to General Stoneman’s Headquarters, I followed after them to get my mare back, I saw her there, it was about 12 miles from my house. I saw the mare there, a soldier riding her, I tried to get to General Stoneman, but the guards kept me back, I never saw the horse the after they took him. The men who took the mare offered me a receipt for it, but I refused to take it as I told him, I thought it was no account, I wanted my horse, and not the receipt. They never offered me any receipt for the horse, I never ask for any. The mare was worth $150.00 , I would not have taken $200.00 for her. She was 8 or 9 years old or something like that. The horse was worth $125.00. I brought him, I don’t know what I paid for him, I don’t know how old he was, I suppose 8 or 9 years old. The man who took the mare gave me a new memorandum for her he did not put my right name on it. I handed it to my Attorney and I supposed he’s filed with my petition. I have never received any pay for either of these horses . I have never received any pay for any property the U S Government took from me at that time. No one else has any interest in this claim but myself. Further Saith Not.

Nathaniel X Carter




Silas Thorpe, Witness is here called to prove Claimant being loyal by the Commissioner address accusation being waived/deposes and say, I am 33 years old, I reside in Fauquier Co., I am a Farmer, I have known the Claimant all my life, I knew him intimately during the War, my mother’s house was within ¾ miles from the Claimant, I came home 2 to 3 times a year, I was in the Union Army, I was with the 13th NY Cavalry and the 8th IL Regt. Cavalry. I talked with about the causes, progress of the War, he always wished for success of the Union Army, I never had those conversations in presence of others. His neighbors regarded him as a Union Man, his loyal neighbors regarded him as a Union Man. I can not say that I do know whether he contributed any money or aid to the Union Cause . Once during the War, one of the Scouts of the 8th IL went with me to the Claimant’s house at mid-night to get information, he gave us information of a Scouting Party of Mosby’s men, he told us how many there was and their location, we took advantage of the information and attacked them successfully the next day, I never knew him to aid with money or information to the Confederates nor to hold any Confederate Bonds, I never knew him to aid their cause in any way. The information he gave me, would have prevented him from proving his loyalty to the Confederacy, had it been able to have a maintained separate look. Further Saith Not.
Silas Thorpe
(his signature)


Moses Thorpe, Witness is here called…….says, I am 39 years old, I was present and saw them taken, the mare, out of Mr. Carter’s wagon, he had one of my horses hitched with her in the wagon they told me that they would have taken mine if it had been heavier but it was too light, this was along in spring of the year when they took her, in 1862, there was two soldiers when they took her one looked to be an officer, he said his name was Crocket, he said he belonged to General Stoneman and that he had given him orders to come along and get all the horses and gear he could gather up fit for Service. The Claimant and two of his sons were present beside myself when they took her, I recon it was about 9 o’clock in the morning when they took her. They took the horse out of the stable the same day, on the _____, one man came and got him/he said his horse had broke down, and he had orders to come and get him. The Command was passing along the road, a short distance from Claimant, in sight, he said he must have a horse. I don’t know whether he got any receipt or not for these horses, I never saw these horses afterwards. The mare was a very fine dun mare, she was not more than 9 years old, worth $200.00. The horse was a Bay horse, not over 8 years old, worth $125.00. I know nothing more about this claim. Further Saith Not.

Moses X Thorp

Receipt ----Dated Nov_, ___ Salam
Received from Nathaniel G. Carter, one dun mare said him to be eight years old for the service of the United States.

Signed by Alfred Pleasonton


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