Constance Hopkins' baptism May 1606 Hampshire & probate of mother Mary 1613
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SNOW>SNOW>HOPKINS>STEPHEN HOPKINS,Mayflower
Willa Conklin 6/20/03
Everything written about Stephen Hopkins' parents, first wife, birth and place and some non-kids before 1998 and/or 2004 is wrong as are all the trees that copied that material. The Green Leaf Hints on Ancestry from databases appear to be compiled from information on those trees.
Everything you need to sort out things for Mayflower Hopkins and his family is here:
( #1. ) -- Easiest place for all the basics: One-pager at http://mayflowerhistory.com/hopkins-stephen/http://mayflowerhistory.com/hopkins-stephen/then follow up parts of Caleb Johnson's book
-- http://tinyurl.com/Johnson-Bookhttp://tinyurl.com/Johnson-Book.
This is the guy responsible for the 1998 find in Hampshire of the burial of Stephen's wife,Mary, and inventory and probate from May 1613, plus baptism records of the three kids.This is the place for all the basics on researching this family.It was Constance Hopkins' baptism record that broke through the brick wall.
( #2. ) --from NEHGS--Researching the Mayflower--Sorting the Good from the Bad.http://tinyurl.com/MAYFLOWER-RESEARCHhttp://tinyurl.com/MAYFLOWER-RESEARCH
( #3. ) - Even *WIKIPEDIA* at http://tinyurl.com/WIKIPEDIA-Stephen-Hopkinshttp://tinyurl.com/WIKIPEDIA-Stephen-Hopkinshas him more correct/complete than 99% of the trees on the internet
( #4. ) --http://www.mccarterfamily.com/mccarterpage/stories/stephen_hopkins/intro.htmhttp://www.mccarterfamily.com/mccarterpage/stories/stephen_hopkins/intro.htm
( #5. ) -- http://pilgrimhopkins.com/site1/Newsletters/AC_su07.pdfhttp://pilgrimhopkins.com/site1/Newsletters/AC_su07.pdf
( #6. ) -- http://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/pdf/Stephen_Hopkins_17th_Century_Documents.pdfhttp://www.pilgrimhallmuseum.org/pdf/Stephen_Hopkins_17th_Century_Documents.pdf
These available in a large library:
- Caleb Johnson, "The True Origins of Mayflower Passenger Stephen Hopkins," The American Genealogist, 73(1998):161-171
-Ernest M. Christensen, "The Probable Parentage of Stephen Hopkins of the Mayflower," The American Genealogist, 79(October 2004):241-249.
-Austin, Mayflower Families (Vol. 6): Stephen Hopkins for Five Generations, General Society of Mayflower Descendants
See
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hopkins/5435/mb.ashxhttp://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hopkins/5435/mb.ashxfor an explanation of how he got tagged with the birth date of 29 Oct 1581, the Gloucester and mythical Constance Dudley messes, and how Nicholas Hopkins & Mary Poole got invented as his parents.
But we're having a problem with the birth of Nicholas Snow (her husband).
The "current thinking" about the baptism of Nicholas Snow at St. Leonard's, Shoreditch, didn't work for the husband of Constance Hopkins because the child baptized 25 Jan 1599/1600 was buried 3 days later.See the Spring 2013 edition of the Mayflower Society Quarterly for Caleb Johnson's story on that.
If you have Ancestry World Subscription:See Nicholas Snowe (with an "e")at
baptism:http://tinyurl.com/NICSNOWc25Jan1600http://tinyurl.com/NICSNOWc25Jan1600(2/3 down on right page),
burial:http://tinyurl.com/NICSNOWb28Jan1600http://tinyurl.com/NICSNOWb28Jan1600(15th down on left page).
If not, see the transcription:
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ahnelson/PARISH/Leonard.htmlhttp://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ahnelson/PARISH/Leonard.html
The child baptized that date might well have been the son of Nicholas Snowe and Elizabeth Rowlles/Rowels, etc.,but it doesn't look like he married Constance Hopkins.
The death dates of his alleged parents and grandparents appear to have been made up also.We know how they've been spread.
Regards,
Shirley [email protected]