These names certainly mean something on my family tree. I am descended from Samuel Withers, brother of Thomas Griffith Withers who married Adeline White. Adeline was the daughter of Mary Shum, daughter of John Michael Shum 1797 in Bath. I have made contact with the owner of the Paine family tree via Ancestry who is a descendent of the Shums too. Are you linked with the Shums and/Withers? Would be interested in any more info on the Withers side, I have a lot already, their businesses in Walsall and Methodist connections, but there always seems to be more!
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