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Re: Martha (Cooper) Shoup, b. 1859; Grand-daughter Eleanor (King) Kirby, La Grange,
Posted by: jc (ID *****5058) Date: March 15, 2009 at 00:03:39
In Reply to: Martha (Cooper) Shoup, b. 1859; Grand-daughter Eleanor (King) Kirby, La Grange, by Dan Cooper of 896

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sfcount&id=I0369

ID: I0369
Name: John SHOUP
Sex: M
Birth: 1858 in Missouri 1
Death: BEF. 1939
Census: 14 JUL 1870 Fulton Co., IN - Rochester Twp. (pg. 43)
Census: 17 JUN 1880 Fulton Co., IN - Rochester Twp. (pg.74B)

Father: John R. SHOUP , Jr. b: 20 AUG 1828 in Pickaway Co., OH
Mother: Helen Margaret BARRETT b: 11 APR 1828 in Ohio

Marriage 1 Martha E. COOPER b: ABT. 1860 in Ohio
Married: 19 NOV 1879 in Fulton Co., IN 2

Sources:
Title: LDS
Repository:
Media: Electronic
Title: Fulton Co., IN Marriage Book D
Repository:
Media: Book
Page: 97
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http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sfcount&id=I0249
ID: I0249
Name: John R. SHOUP , Jr.
Sex: M
Birth: 20 AUG 1828 in Pickaway Co., OH 1
Death: 4 DEC 1901 in Rochester, IN 1
Census: 1850 Fulton Co., IN (Union Twp)
Census: 14 JUL 1870 Fulton Co., IN - Rochester Twp. (pg. 42)
Census: 2 JUN 1880 Fulton Co., IN - Rochester Twp. (pg. 81C)
Census: 2 JUN 1900 Fulton Co., IN - Rochester Twp. (pg.3B)
Burial: I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Fulton Co., IN (section 16, row 3) 2

Father: John SHOUP , Sr. b: 16 DEC 1793 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Mother: Nancy Ann SMURR b: 31 DEC 1805 in Jefferson Co., Virginia

Marriage 1 Julia MOORE b: 8 AUG 1831 in New Jersey
Married: 30 OCT 1850 in Fulton Co., IN 3
Marriage Ending Status: Death of one spouse

Marriage 2 Helen Margaret BARRETT b: 11 APR 1828 in Ohio
Married: 25 SEP 1853 in Clay, MO 4 5
Children
Alla M. SHOUP b: 6 AUG 1855 in Independence, MO
John SHOUP b: 1858 in Missouri
Charles SHOUP b: 1860 in Missouri
William SHOUP b: 1862 in Missouri
Mary SHOUP b: 19 DEC 1866 in Indiana
Helen SHOUP b: 14 SEP 1868 in Indiana
Letitia E. SHOUP b: 12 OCT 1873 in Indiana

Sources:
Title: John Shoup Obituary
Repository:
Media: Newspaper
Title: Tombaugh Book of Fulton Co., IN Cemeteries
Repository:
Media: Book
Title: Fulton Co., IN Marriage Book A
Repository:
Media: Book
Page: 25
Title: John Shoup Obituary
Repository:
Media: Newspaper
Text: "John Shoup...while employed in Clay county, Mo. was united in marriage to Helen Barrett"
Title: LDS
Repository:
Media: Electronic
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ID: I0257
Name: John SHOUP , Sr.
Sex: M
Title: Colonel
Birth: 16 DEC 1793 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1
Death: 29 SEP 1851 in Fulton Co., IN 2
Military Service: Was a Colonel in the War of 1812
Burial: Moon Cemetery, Fulton Co., IN 2
Census: Was a county sherrif and in the State Legislature in Ohio.
Census: Was County Commisioner of Fulton Co., IN.
Census: 1850 Fulton Co., IN (Union Twp)

Marriage 1 Nancy Ann SMURR b: 31 DEC 1805 in Jefferson Co., Virginia
Married: 27 DEC 1821 in Fairfield, OH
Children
Elizabeth SHOUP b: 1822
Jacob SHOUP b: 24 NOV 1824 in Pickaway Co., OH
Mary SHOUP b: 10 OCT 1825 in Ohio
Amanda SHOUP b: 19 OCT 1826
John R. SHOUP , Jr. b: 20 AUG 1828 in Pickaway Co., OH
Martha A. SHOUP b: 11 SEP 1832 in Ohio
Adaline SHOUP b: 6 JAN 1835 in Ohio
William F. SHOUP b: 5 FEB 1837 in Ohio
Ruth S. SHOUP b: 27 MAR 1838 in Ohio
Emily SHOUP b: 1842 in Indiana
Francis Marion SHOUP b: 12 FEB 1845 in Indiana
Alice M. SHOUP b: 22 MAR 1849 in Indiana

Sources:
Title: Tombaugh Book of Fulton Co., IN Cemeteries
Repository:
Media: Book
Text: Died Sept. 29, 1851 at age of 57y 9m 13d
Title: Tombaugh Book of Fulton Co., IN Cemeteries
Repository:
Media: Book
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I thought John was connected to our Shoup family of Huntingdon County PA; however, in your records John's place of birth is Philadelphia. Do you have a source for the information? Will you share the source?
Also, please note the biography shows Jacob's married to Ms. Davidson (spelling error?)
Warm regards,

The following Biographical sketch was copied from the book "HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY COUNTIES OF WHITE AND PULASKI, INDIANA. Historical and Biographical. Illustrated. Chicago; F.A. Battey & Co., Publishers. 1883.
page 665, City of Winamac, Pulaski County, Indiana.

"JACOB SHOUP, President of the Old Settlers' Association of Pulaski County, was born in Pickaway County, Ohio, November 24, 1822, and is one of the few remaining of the pioneers of Pulaski County. Through almost half a century of self-denial and hard work, he has accumulated a competence, and is now enjoying the fruits of his labors, living retired in Winamac. JOHN and NANCY (SMURR) SHOUP, parents of JACOB SHOUP, were natives, respectively, of Pennsylvania and Virginia, and of German descent chiefly, with slight mixture of English blood on the maternal side. Their union was blessed with ten children, six of whom yet survive. The family, so far back as can be traced, have been a race of husbandmen, and such was the occupation of JOHN SHOUP. This man and family, late in the autumn of 1839, immigrated into Indiana, and that winter stopped in Logansport, (Cass County)and entered land in Fulton County, just across the line from Pulaski County. Here Mr. SHOUP died in 1851, followed by the death of his widow in Stark County in 1852.

JOHN SHOUP was a man well known in Eastern Pulaski and Fulton Counties, having held the office of County Commissioner a number of years in the latter. While a resident of Pickaway County, Ohio, he was honored to an election to the Legislature of that State, also serving as County Sheriff. He was quite skillful in the use of the rifle, and was a great lover of hunting, having no superior in the whole neighborhood where he resided.

JACOB SHOUP, like his father, has made farming his vocation through life. In 1842, he married ***Miss ELIZABETH DAVIDSON, and in January, 1843, moved to Tippecanoe Township, Pulaski County, and taking one hundred and twenty acres of land there and as much more adjoining it in the other county, all in a state of nature, has made it one of the finest farms in either county. He and family moved to Winamac the fall of 1882, and are there living a quiet and retired life. To him and wife have been born

seven children; LEWIS C. (deceased); JOSEPHINE (deceased; EMMA, who died the wife of JACOB KLECKNER; LAURA; ANNA, now Mrs. FRANK S. DURR; MARY (deceased); and JANE, now Mrs. JOHN AUSTIS. Mr. SHOUP is a Democrat, and has been very active worker in the interests of that party. He has served the county as Commissioner more terms than any other one man, and, although old in years, he is yet wide awake, and one of the county's most useful and valuable citizens."

Household Record 1880 United States Census
Jacob SHOUP Self M Male W 57 OH Farmer PA VA
Elizabeth D. SHOUP Wife M Female W 64 NJ Keeping House NJ NJ
Laura SHOUP Dau S Female W 26 IN School Teacher --- ---
Anna SHOUP Dau S Female W 24 IN School Teacher --- ---
John BAKER Other S Male W 23 IN Farm Laborer OH OH
Frank KLECKNER GSon S Male W 8 IN At Home --- ---

Source Information:
Census Place Tippecanoe, Pulaski, Indiana
Family History Library Film 1254305
NA Film Number T9-0305
Page Number 246A

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RICE, SMURR posted by Barb Patterson on Thursday, May 20, 1999

Need help finding parents Mary J. Smurr born abt.1830 in Ohio.She married Oliver Rice abt 1850. They moved to Indiana where they lived and raised five children. They are buried in Sweets cemetary Jefferson twp. Noble Co. In. Thanks!

Re: Jacob Shoup b1780 md Sarah Downing
Posted by: Sherry Kaseberg Date: March 17, 2000 at 21:37:07
In Reply to: Jacob Shoup b1780 md Sarah Downing by Mylinda Mask Shaw of 779


To the best of my 40 years of research knowledge, the proof of the parents of Jacob Shoup Sr. of Old Frederick Co MD and Bedford/Huntingdon Co PA remains elusive! It is believed he died in Pickaway Co OH about 1816. It is believed that his second wife was Elizabeth, maybe Brengle, m 1791 in Frederick Co MD. His first wife perhaps Margaret.

The Jacob who married Sarah Downing is the son of the above Jacob Shoup.

The children of Jacob Shoup [senior] include:
Elizabeth who m Timothy Downing by 1816; Jacob [the younger] who m Sarah Downing 1802; Nancy who m John Smart; Thomas who m Sarah Martin 1811 Pickaway Co OH; Hannah who probably m Peter Shaffer/Shafer/Shaver; three other children names and dates unknown; ''==
>>>>MAYBE John who m Nancy Smurr 1821 Fairfield Co OH; James who m Eleanor Bowman 1830 Pickaway Co OH; Sebastian/Boston who m1 Eliza Selby 1819 Pickaway Co OH, m2 Tryphosa Ellsworth 1854 Indiana; and Henry who m Mary Highland 1818 Pickaway Co OH.






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