Re: ENGLISH SHACKLEFORDS
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Re: ENGLISH SHACKLEFORDS
Suzanne Colley 6/17/06
Thanks Suzanne yes have found that but the records do not agree with English records or can be corroborated, I have written to the author, Shackleford was not a village in Norman times it was a small woodland or hamlet,there is no record of a Baron Jacque le Fort beng part of the Norman invasion at all he is not on the list in Battle Abbey and the only reference I have found was in the My Family sitein fact a Baron I think would be "de" (of) not "le" (the) Fort=strong and there is no record of either he or a Shackleford being owner of land and it he defineitly did not pass to the Earl of Midleton he didn't own the land until several hundred years later there were others before him it was part of the Loosley Molyneaux Estate at one stage. I have been in touch with the local reverandand an historian, they say there is no proof of Shackleford coming from there and also that the the William de Shackleford story appears nonsense also the local history society who cold tor no liught on it, and it was not recorded in the Doomsday book, Shackleford never became a prish until the 1800s and yes it came under Godalming which was it was held by the King at that time, and a Ranulph Flambard held the church of that manor he also held Tuesley which was part of the Godalming hundreds, a woman called Ealdgyth held Elmbridge which was also part of Godalming. If the King gave the land to someone there should have been record somewhere as there are with some other areas unless that have been lost and it was given after the Domesday book was complete.Problem with My Family which is the LDS site they don't require proof or authentication they rely on members to provide information some can provide parish records but not for this tree. There were definitely Shacklefords in New Arelsford they show in parish record and that where the Roger who went to USA came from and it is near Shackleford, but there are no earlier records, very few records survived the 1500's or the later Civil War. I have a horrible suspicion that a researcher may have played with some facts and come up with a story that includes a "aristrocat" since people pay for the info and they like to givemonies worth, seem to want to find that.I saw some time ago that the researcher had claimed that he could not find any other Shacklefords in the area or surrounding areas so the Americans must have been descended from William, however there are Shacklefords scattered all over the south of England and some not far from Shackleford not many mind you they must have come from somewhere, my own Shacklefords surfaced in Reading 1700 and there were records of others before that which I can't prove were connected to my family and thats only about an hour from Shackleford. I certainly would like to think that the Shacklefords came from Shackleford it does make sense
Had one woman on a list who claimed to be descended from Charlamagne because some researcher had told her, there are some less than honest researchers out there who are happy to take money from people overseas who can't check themselves.
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Re: ENGLISH SHACKLEFORDS
Suzanne Colley 6/18/06