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Re: McGrane/McGrain
Posted by: Carolyn La Porte (ID *****6155) Date: January 06, 2013 at 15:44:11
In Reply to: McGrane/McGrain by Steve Erwin of 66394

Hi Steve,

From what you have given this looks like it may very well be your family.


1901 GLASGOW ST. MARK, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
17 CATHERINE ST.
McGRANE
Thomas, age 50, coal trimmer, born Ireland

Anne, age 45, wife, born Ireland

Bridget, age 20, daughter, ironer, born ireland

Thomas, age 15, son, Van boy, born Glasgow, Lanark

Terence, age 12, son, scholar, born Glasgow, Lanark

Annie, age 7, daughter, scholar, born Glasgow, Lanark

1891 ANDERSTON, GLASGOW BARONY, LANARKSHIRE, SCOTLAND
43 WARROCH ST.
McGRANE

Thomas , age 40, labourer, dock, born Ireland

Annie, age 35, wife, born Ireland

Mary J., age 12, daughter, scholar, born Ireland

Bridget, age 10, daughter, scholar, born Ireland

Thomas, age 4, son, scholar, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Terence, age 2, son, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire

familysearch.org has son Terence as being in the Merchant Navy Seamen records


Terence Mcgrane
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941
birth       1890       
military service              United Kingdom
name       Terence Mcgrane
event type       Military Service
event year range       1918-1921
event place       United Kingdom
birth year       1890


You mention a Henry Mcgrane born 1859 Eastwood but familysearch.org shows a Thomas Mcgrane born Eastwood 1859 - parents Henry Mcgrane and Mary Mcarthur

They are listed in the 1861 census in Eastwood

1861 POLLOKSHAWS, EASTWOOD, RENFREWSHIRE, SCOTLAND
PLEASANCE ST.
MCGRANE
Henry, age 29, quarrier born Ireland

Mary, age 29, wife, born Ireland

Thomas, age 1, born P. Sahws, Renfrewshire

DOROW
Edward, age 28, boarder, quarrier, born Ireland

** I doubt if this is the same Thomas, shown born Ireland in 1891 and 1901 census above - he was born Ireland, and this Thomas was born Scotland, and there ages are off by about 9 or 10 years also. , but there may be some connection to these two McGrane families as it does not seem to be a common name.

familysearch.org also has birth for

Mary Jane McGrane, born April 6, 1879 Inchicore, Dublin, Ireland
to Thomas Mcrane and Anne Mahony Mcgrane

AND Henry Michael Mcgrane born July 26, 1876 Dublin, Ireland to Thomas Mcgrane and Annie Mahony

I did not find birth for Bridget

Anne Mahony was born about 1855 and there is a birth for an Anne Mahony Nov. 3, 1854, Ireland, parents Cornelius and Ann

The only thing I can think of would be to try to contact the Church in Inchicore where Mary Jane was born and see what records they have - perhaps they will have a marriage for Thomas and Anne, naming their parents.

also, if you know where and when Thomas and Anne died their death records could be of help.

** by the way, I see that ancestry.com has the service record for Terence which shows he enlisted Dec. 12, 1916 At Glasgow
He was a dock labourer, age 26 years 4 months
living at 119 Hydepark St., Glasgow
a second address is shown - 9 Port St., Anderston
he is single
had not served before
he was appointed to the A. & S. Highlanders

the next page says he received the British War Medal, Victory Medal
this page must have been later as he is now married
It shows next of kin as Thomas Mcgrane, 9 Port St. Anderston, Glasgow
crossed out and Ellen McGrane written over top
then it shows particulars of marriage
Ellen Padbury, spinster
married at St. Mary's R.C. Church, Croydon, 163 Brighton Road, South Croydon - date: 6.2. 1918

Terence was at this time 27 years 4 months old
height: 5 feet 6-7/8 inches
brown hair, blue eyes
scar below right eye

next page says I hereby acknowledge the receipt of the British War Medal and Victory Medal granted in respect tot he service of No. 44715
Pte. Terence McGrane, Suffolk Reg't.
Date Feb. 23, 1923
Signature: E. McGrane with thanks

so looks like his wife signed for the medals

next page is from the War Office to Mrs. McGrane
saying they are forwarding Terences medals to her. They refer to him
as the late N. 44715 Private T. McGrane, Suffolk Regiment
so he must have died in the War
the letter is dated Aug. 10, 1920

I guess it took them a while to actually send them to her.

next page looks like a record of dates and where he was. The last date is Oct. 21, 1919 which says Home
previous date was Sept. 22, 1919 France

Does that mean he died in France and they sent his body back?? Not sure

next page dated Dec. 19, 1922 is a confirmation that something was sent to Mrs. McGrane regarding the late Terence McGrane. - odd but the actual note says Aug. 10, 1920

next page is a certificate of identity signed by Terence,c annot see a date on it.

next page is a page mentioning he had been warned not to drink but was bound drunk , first time was awarded 14 days punishment, second time 10 days punishment

next page shows he was transferred to the Suffolk Reg. Oct. 21, 1919

next page shows enlistment date and transfer to reserves on demobilization Oct. 21, 1919

next page is a descriptive return of a Soldier discharged or transferred to the reserve on demobilization

It says he was discharged as a private, age 30
from the 11th Suffolk Reg.
he is married, and a dock labourer
postal address - 20 Queen St. S. Croyden, Surrey
Born Barony Lanark
Father Thomas
it says he served in France for a total of 343 days

next page has some info on where he was on certain dates

next page, remarks on where he was and more on the drunkeness - but I think it refers to same occasions - I'm guessing most soldiers probably got drunk once in a while

next page has more on dates and whre he was.

next page is statement of disability - but I don't see any disability shown
next page is back of that page and again no disability shown

next page again showing his offences and punishments (so I guess some of these pages are just more papers they had to fill out)

next page - more of same as above re offences

next page - a doctor's report as to a blood test taken in 1918 - I guess a common test for soldiers - nothing much said - except he will have mercury pills does not say why

next page - medical history - with nothing shown

next page - admissions to hospital - nothing shown

next page another medical report saying he will be getting mercury pills for a wassermann test that was given for anti-syphilitic treatment

next page - doctor's report

next page - doctor's report - he had sore gums

next page another doctor's report

next page - doctor's report

next page - doctor's report from Croydon War hospital, blood test, wasserman, results positive

that's all, so maybe he didn't die in France - but after returning home?

I went to England deaths and found him

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Terence McGrane
Name:       Terence McGrane
Birth Date:       abt 1889
Date of Registration:       Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Age at Death:       31
Registration district:       Horsham
Inferred County:       Sussex
Volume:       2b
Page:       327

there is also the marriage for him and Ellen

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Terence McGrane
Name:       Terence McGrane
Spouse Surname:       Padbury
Date of Registration:       Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district:       Croydon
Inferred County:       Surrey
Volume Number:       2a
Page Number:       764

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ellen Padbury
Name:       Ellen Padbury
Spouse Surname:       Mcgrane
Date of Registration:       Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district:       Croydon
Inferred County:       Surrey
Volume Number:       2a
Page Number:       764

I did not find any children born to Terence and Ellen

another suggestion that may help would be to go to rootsireland.ie

they have birth, marriage and death records among others - I did a quick search and see there are 3 Thomas boys born about 1850 with name close to McGrane - I don't have credits to see the actual records though

I'm sorry i could not find more. Carolyn L


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