Re: Robert Byron Angus, Scotland to Ontario
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Robert Byron Angus, Scotland to Ontario
Lianne Lavoie 9/02/11
Hi Lianne,
I found Robert's death record which shows he was born in Ontario
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1936 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Robert Byron Angus
Name: Robert Byron Angus
Death Date: 25 Sep 1927
Death Location: Rainy River
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Birth Location: Cobden, Ontario
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS935_352
Image shows:
Born May 8, 1863 Cobden, ON
Road Foreman
Died age 64 years, 4months, 17 days
Father James Angus, born Lanark
Mother: Mary McLean, born Scotland
Informant - Freeman Angus, son - Barwich, ON
Burial - Barwich cemetery
Date of burial - Sept. 27, 1927
Primary cause of death - Paralysis
Contributory cause - arterio sclerosis - 4 years
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You mentioned you have the 1911 census with wife Julia and kids - in that census Robert is also shown as born Ontario
Robert, age 47, Julia, age 36, Emery, age 19, Leslie, age 18, Freeman, age 16, Cecil, age 14, Leona, age 11 and George age 8
Robert and Julia shown as born ON all the kids shown as born USA, immigrated 1904
So they would not be in the 1901 Canada census but should be in the US – where I found them
1900 LINCOLN, PEMBINA, NORTH DAKOTA
ANGUS
Robert, age 35, farmer, born May 1865, Canada both parents born Canada, immigrated 1888, married 9 years
Julia, age 25, wife, born Oct. 1874 Canada father born Scotland mother born Canada, immigrated 1881, married 9 years, 5 children born 5 living
Emery, age 8,son, born April 1892 ND both parents born Canada
Leslie, age 7, son, born April 1893, ND both parents born Canada
Freeman, age 4, son, born July 1895, ND both parents born Canada
Cecil, age 3, son, born Nov. 1896 ND both parents born Canada
Leona, age 10/12, daughter, born Aug. 1899 ND both parents born Canada
So some dates off a bit but not unusual for census
If Robert came to US in 1888 he should be in Canada 1881 census but not in 1891
Also he and Julia would likely have married in North Dakota
1881 BROMLEY, RENFREW NORTH, ON
ANGUS
James, age 58, farmer, born ON
Mary, age 47, born Scotland
George, age 26, farmer, born ON
James, age 21, farmer, born ON
Margaret, age 15, born ON
Jane, age 12, born ON
Robert, age 18, born ON
Mary, age 9, born ON
NEXT DOOR
ANGUS
Malcolm, farmer, age 27, born ON
Cristina, age 28 born ON
Hariet, age 4, born ON
George, age 2, born ON
James, age 9/12 (July) born ON
1871 McNAB, RENFREW SOUTH, ON
ANGUS
James, age 49, farmer, born ON
Mary, age 37, born Scotland
John, age 19, laborer, born ON
Malcolm, age 18, farmer, born ON
George, age 16, born ON
Ann, age 13, born ON
James, age 11, born ON
Robert, age 8, born ON
Margret, age 5, born ON
Jane, age 2, born ON
1861RENFREW, CANADA WEST
ANGUS
James, farmer, age 36, born Upper Canada
Mary, age 24, born Scotland
John, age 9, born Upper Canada
Malcolm, age 7, born Upper Canada
George, age 5, born Upper Canada
Ann, age 3, born Upper Canada
James, age 1, born Upper Canada
1851 HORTON, RENFREW, CANADA WEST (ONTARIO)
ANGUS
James, farmer, age 27, born Lanark, Canada
Mary, Mrs., age ??, born Scotland
I was hoping that James would be with parents but no such luck.
Robert was born too early to be included in the ON birth index which starts in 1869.
As you see all census records show both Robert and his father as born in Ontario, not Scotland – most census show ancestry as Scottish though. Angus is a Scottish name so may be that James’ parents were from Scotland
This looks like death for James
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1936 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about James Angus
Name: James Angus
Death Date: 31 Dec 1897
Death Location: Renfrew
Age: 75
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Birth Location: Lks
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS935_85
Was a farmer, born Canada
Died of brights disease
Son John was informant
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I looked for marriages of children of Robert and Julia
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 about Emery Lawrence Angus
Name: Emery Lawrence Angus
Birth Place: Drayton ND USA
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Father Name: Robert Angus
Mother Name: Julia Johnson
Spouse Name: Bertha May Fults
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: Langdon ND USA
Spouse Father Name: Wesley fults
Spouse Mother Name: Lucy Jane Bailey
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1923
Marriage Location: Rainy River District
Marriage County: Rainy River
Registration district: Rainy River
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_659
Image showsEmery born Drayton ND – wife is also born ND
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 about Leslie Angus
Name: Leslie Angus
Birth Place: Drayton, North Dakota USA
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Father Name: Robert L Angus
Mother Name: Julia Johnson
Spouse Name: Mildred Grace Watts
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse Birth Place: Township of Masher
Spouse Father Name: George Watts
Spouse Mother Name: Alice Peterson
Marriage Date: 26 Feb 1923
Marriage Location: Rainy River District
Marriage County: Rainy River
Registration district: Rainy River
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_659
Image shows: Leslie as born Drayton ND
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 about Freeman Robert Angus
Name: Freeman Robert Angus
Birth Place: Drayton N Dak
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Father Name: Robert Biron Angus
Mother Name: Julia Johnson Angus
Spouse Name: Clara Ellen Fults
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse Birth Place: Walahala N Dak
Spouse Father Name: Wesley Stanewood Fults
Spouse Mother Name: Lucy Jane Bailey Fults
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1926
Marriage Location: Rainy River District
Marriage County: Rainy River
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_535
Freeman is shown as born Drayton, North Dakota and wife also born ND and looks like she is sister to wife of Emery
I didn’t find Cecil, Leona or George in marriage records but the ON marriage database only goes to 1928 so they may have married after that year.
I also did not find death for Julia but database goes only to 1936 so if she died after that she will not be included.
Carolyn L
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Re: Robert Byron Angus, Scotland to Ontario
Lianne Lavoie 9/03/11