Re: Searchin family of James Proven Sharp West Lothian Scotland.
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Searchin family of James Proven Sharp West Lothian Scotland.
Clive Sharp 7/09/10
Hi Clive,
This looks like it may be the right family although siblings of James are Agnes, George and John (not William)
1881 ABERCORN, WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND - ADDRESS: SOCIETY
SHARP
William, age 54, master shoemaker, born Abercorn, Linlithgowshire
Margret, age 45, wife, born Kirkliston, Linlithgowshire
Agnes, age 12, daughter, scholar, born Abercorn, Linlithgowshire
James P., age 10,son, scholar, born Abercorn, Linlithgowshire
George, age 6, son, scholar, born Abercorn, Linlithgowshire
John, age 2,son, born Abercorn, Linlithgowshire
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I found William , Margaret and son John in 1891.
I found a James Sharp age 21, born Abercorn, West Lothian. He is an Under Gardener, living at Men's Lodge Arniston Garden, Temple, Midlothian.
Was your James a gardener?
Do you know his wife's surname as I could look for her as well?
1871 ABERCORN, WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND - ADDRESS SOCIETY
SHARP
William, age 46, shoemaker, born Abercorn, Linlithgown
Margaret Proven, age 37, wife, born Kirkliston, Linlithgow
Margaret Gray, age 11, step-daughter, born Glasgow, Lanark
Robert Gray, age 9, stepson, born England
William Sharp, age 4, son, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
Agnes, Sharp, age 2, daughter, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
James P., Sharp, age 6 months, son, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
** so here is James' sibling William. I guess John in later census was another sibling you did not know of.
I went back to 1881 to look for William. This may be him - William Sharp, age 14, lodger, cooper, living at St, Andrew, Edinburth St. Cuthberts, Midlothian. He was born S. Queensferry, Linlithgowshire.
So perhaps he was sent off to work which would explain his not being with the family.
** as in 1871 census Margaret's children- with surname Gray were Margaret born about 1860 Scotland and Robert born about 1862 England I looked for them in 1861 census. This looks likely
1861 ST. AIDAN, LIVERPOOL, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
GRAY
Robert, age 25, stoker, born Scotland
Margaret, age 27, stoker's wife, born Scotland
Margaret, age 13 months, daughter born Scotland
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Here is William in 1861
1861 ABERCORN, WEST LOTHIAN - ADDRESS - SOCIETY
SHARP
Lauriston, age 70, master shoemaker, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
Agnes, age 66, wife, born Falkirk, Sterlingshire
William, age 36, son, shoe maker - journeyman, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
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1851 ABERCORN, WEST LOTHIAN - TOWN- SOCIETY, ADDRESS - SOCIETY
SHARP
Lauriston, age 60, master shoemaker employing 2 labourers, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
Agnes, age 55, wife, born Falkirk, Sterling
William, age 26, son, shoemaker, born Abercorn, Linlithgow
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1841ABERCORN, WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND - SOCIETY
SHARP
Lauriston, age 50, shoemaker, born West Lothian
Agnes, age 45, born Scotland
William, age 15, shoe maker apprentice, born West Lothian
Robert, age 14, tailor apprentice, born West Lothian
George, age 9, born West Lothian
Wedow, age 85, born Scotland
Janet, age 20, milliner, born West Lothian
Donaldson, John, age 20, shoe maker, journeyman, born Scotland
McCuish, Donato, age 25, shoe make journeyman, born Scotland
** this is all from the transcription of the census. I cannot see the images so all spellings are as shown. I suspect Wedow is widow and Donato may be Donald.
I also suspect Wedow is likely Lauriston's mother and all young Sharp are children- as they do not show the relationships.
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I think this may be Margaret Proven
1841 QUEENSFERRY, WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND - ADDRESS - HIGH STREET SOUTH SIDE
PROVEN
James, age 45, ploughman, born West Lothian
Margaret, age 35, born West Lothian
Elizabeth, age 15, born West Lothian
Robert, age 15, ploughman, born West Lothian
Agnes, age 10, born West Lothian
Margaret, age 7, born West Lothian
Anne, age 4, born West Lothian
again no relationships are shown but I think you can assume all children are children of James and Margaret.
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I looked for the family in 1851 and found
1851 QUEENSFERRY, WEST LOTHIAN - HIGH STREET SOUTH BACK
PROVEN
James, age 52, farm servant, born LIthgow, W. Lothian
Margaret, age 48, wife, born Kirkholm, W. Llothian
Agnes, age 20, daughter, house servant, born Kirkholm, W. Lothian
Janet age 9, daughter, scholar, born Queensferry, W. Lothian
** so Margaret is not with them and I could not find her in 1851.
Carolyn L
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