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hi
this is info i just posted on the goode forum which i am also going to post on the laurens co, sc forum.
hi dave and nance
okay, i think i am now confused myself.
however, i do agree with dave that all of this re our goode family should still be considered as a work in progress.
re my confusion, i thought i had figured out that this was my mackerness goode, sr who was married to sarah hendrick, daughter of this hans hendrick, who died ca 1773 amelia co, va.
i also thought my mackerness goode, sr of lunenburg/ charlotte cos, va was the brother of william goode; phillip goode; samuel goode, etc, sons of our samuel goode, sr who died ca 1734/ 1735 henrico co, va.
however, dave, when i go back and re-check your info, i note that you have that our mackerness goode, sr was married to sarah watkins.
where does this info come from that she was sarah watkins rather than sarah hendrick? is this from the book " va cousins"?
as odd as it may seem, i have never seen the book" va cousins". years ago when i finally located someone to correspond with re our goode family, per the lauren co, sc genealogical society, she did send me several pages, from the book, saying that much of "va cousins" was not accurate.
so, who was my mackerness goode, sr married to???
what i do know for sure is that the lunenburg co, va deed cited previously and the laurens co, sc records indicate that either my mackerness goode, sr or his son, mackerness goode, jr was married to sarah hendrick, daughter of this hans hendrick, who died ca 1772 amelia co, va.
i have cited the lunenburg co, va deed wherein my mackerness goode, sr and wife sarah sold land to reps osborne and this reps osborne was somehow related to the thomas osborne, wife, elizabeth hendrick, also daughter of hans hendrick and sister of our sarah hendrick goode.
lunenburg co, va deed book 3, page 156, 1752, mackerness goode of lunenburg co, va to reps osborne of same for 5 pds a certain tract of land of 165 acres on both sides of the bluestone creek, part of a larger patent to mackerness goode. no witnesses. sarah, wife of mackerness goode, relinquished her right of dower.
so, the question is:
was this our mackerness goode, sr or his son, mackerness goode, jr who was married to sarah hendrick? would our mackerness goode, jr have been old enough to have been married to sarah hendrick by 1752?
according to info i have from the booklet: harris papers: lunenburg co, va by kathryn wiggins, my mackerness goode, sr had a patent for 3,241 acres in lunenburg co, va on the bluestone creek and horsepen creek bounded by lands of woods; carrell; william goode; phillip jones; peter hamlin/ hamblin; marable; and moody's branch; part granted to mackerness goode, sr in 1747 and part never granted.
here again, also per laurens co, sc info i have cited, this was our sarah hendrick goode's brother hans and margaret wynne hendrick, who had also moved to laurens co, sc ca 1770 and who were involved there with patrick cunningham and my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers, son of my william harris, sr/ frances goode, daughter of my mackerness goode, sr.
laurens co, sc deed book F, page 441, 1/ 31/ 1798, william harris to john cunningham for 85 spanish milled dollars, 200 acres on duncans creek of little river, all my part of a 1796 survey to patrick cunningham and william harris for 500 acre grant 2/ 6/ 1799 to john and robert cunningham and said william harris. witnesses: elijah burgess, thomas redden. zech bailey dower renunciation of wife, frances (widow of william harris 5/ 13/ 1799).
again, this was my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers, who died 1799/ 1800 laurens co, sc and his wife, my frances rodgers harris who also died 1800/ 1801 laurens co, sc.
i do not know where either my william harris, sr or my frances goode harris died?? in fact, i am not totally sure that they actually moved to laurens co, sc.
laurens co, sc deed book F, page 522, 2/ 13/ 1800, micajah hendrick to william winn hendrick for 50 pds, 300 acres on reedy river, original grant to hans hendrick 6/ 23/ 1774, to his lawful heir micajah hendrick. wit: john wait; elijah burgess, jacob niswanger. lewis graves, j.p.
laurens co, sc deed book B, page 223, 9/ 10/ 1787, micajah hendrix of pittsylvania co, va to my mother, margaret, widow of hans hendrix of old 96th dist, sc deed of gift of 450 acres in two tracts on north side of reedy river bordered on patrick cunningham, thomas carter, richard lanyard, henry parker, mary adkins, sarah bowman, adj the river and below the shoals....for and during her natural life and to whom she pleases forever. wit: lewis banton; edmond ware; michael lawless. george anderson, j.p.
again, in regard to the hendrick family, this hans hendrick, who married margaret wynne, daughter of william wynne, was the brother of my sarah hendrick goode, wife of my mackerness goode, sr or jr??
i know that our samuel goode, son of our mackerness goode, sr, was married to jemina davenport, daughter of joseph davenport who died 1788 newberry co, sc.
so, that leaves either my mackerness goode, sr or jr who would have been married to sarah hendrick.
again, was our mackerness goode, jr old enough to have been married to sarah hendrick in 1752?
again, per info i have posted, my william harris, sr/ frances goode had an agreement with this william marable re the plantation "finneywood" ca 1745/ 1746 in lunenburg co, va and a suit followed ca 1750 re my william harris, sr/ frances goode with william marable wherein all of my frances goode harris' family, including my mackerness goode, sr, gave depositions re this suit.
Chancery Court Marrable vs Harris Depositions:
MACKERNESS GOODE
The Deponent in ye other side further Saith that according to ye Plaintiff's desire in the year 1745/ 1746 he see measured & lofted (?) on ye said Plaintif Plantation Eighteen barrells of Indian Corn or there abouts, that was a crop of the late Overseer Wilkins & this Deponent further saith that ye Defendant soon after mov'd to ye said house with his Wife and four Negroes, further Saith not.
Aug ye first 1750
Cornelius Cargil
Abr: Martin, Mackerness +(his mark) Goode
as indicated, a samuel goode, who was stated to have been about age 30 in 1750, gave testimony, which means this samuel goode would have been born ca 1720.
SAMUEL GOOD
The Deposition of Samuel Good taken for William Marble in a Suit of Chancery now Depending in Lunenburgh County betwixt the said Marable Complainant and William Harris Defendant
This Deponent being of the Age of Thirty years or there abouts being first sworn Doth say
That he had of the said Harris Ten Barrells of Corn (as he believes) for a horse. That he was to have had the ten Barrells made up Fifteen but that he never received more than two or three Barrells more & one Peck being Informed by Harris his Corn fell Short.
This Deponant being asked the year he received this Corn of Harris sais, he believes it was part of the first Crop Harris made on Marrables Plantation
And being further asked if the Corn he had of Harris was made in the year 1746 or 1747 sais (unreadable or blank)----And this Deponent further …first year Harris worked on the Plantation
( dave, i would say, again, that this deposition re the above samuel goode was also taken or dated august 1, 1750, which is when all or most of these depositions are/ were dated.)
so, who was this samuel goode???
it would certainly seem that this samuel goode was too young to have been the brother of my mackerness goode, sr and it would seem that either this samuel goode was the son of my mackerness goode, sr or of his brother william goode.
again, per the laurens co, sc deeds i have cited re our mackerness goode, jr and samuel good, sons of my/ our mackerness goode, sr, our samuel goode was his oldest son.
there is, indeed, such a problem when so many have the same names trying to figure out just exactly who is who.
also, in regard to dates, and especially these early dates, they are at times the hardest to figure. even when we know when someone has died per a will, for example, we still do not know when that person was born; how long he lived; or when his children were born, etc.
so, in lieu of not having totally accurate dates, we need reference points to approximate dates and ages. i do not know what was used in the book "va cousins" for the dates given there or their accuracy?
for example and re our samuel goode, sr, who died ca 1734/ 1735 henrico co, va, i do not know when exactly he was born; how old he was when he died, but i do know our samuel goode was the oldest son of our john goode by his 1st wife frances or martha mackerness.
i also do not know, though, when his and my/ our martha jones children were born, including my mackerness goode, sr or their birth order. however, as indicated, per a will for our samuel goode/ martha jones, which i have found and will post separately, our samuel goode, sr names my mackerness goode, sr first in his will.
when i first started out with this and/ or when i first learned that my william harris, sr' s wife, frances, was frances goode, i initially thought my frances goode was the sister of my mackerness goode, sr; william goode, etc but, speaking of dates, the more i thought about this and the more i learned, and, as i will show, i do not believe my william harris, sr would have been old enough to have married frances goode, sister of my mackerness goode, sr.
as stated previously, i know from the laurens co, sc records that ann harris cunningham, wife of patrick cunningham, is shown to have been the sister of my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers of laurens co, sc, children of my/ our william harris, sr/ frances goode. ann harris cunningham is stated, per her tombstone in laurens co, sc, to have been born in 1747.
however, i also know, per these patents that my mackerness goode, sr/ jr; my william harris, sr/ frances goode; and my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers obtained in laurens co, sc, that my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers is indicated, himself, to have been born ca 1748.
per sc patent law, at the time, my william harris, sr/ jr and mackerness goode, sr/ jr obtained these original grants/ patents in laurens co, sc in 1767/ 1768, which is when the petition for the grants were made, you were allowed 100 acres as headright and 50 additional acres for ones wife; children under the age of 16; and also 50 additional acres for each black slave and white servant.
my william harris, sr/ frances goode had a grant for 300 acres, which indicates he had a wife and other children under the age of 16 or slaves at this time he petitioned for the grant in 1768.
my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers had a grant for 150 acres which shows he was married at this time to my frances rodgers in 1768 but that they had no children.
as an aside, my john rodgers, sr/ esq; his brother andrew rodgers, jr; sister margaret rodgers who married james anderson; etc, were the children of my andrew rodgers, sr also of lunenburg/ charlotte co, va, who died there in 1755.
my john rodgers. sr/ esq; his brother andrew rodgers, jr; their mother, my jane rodgers, etc also moved from charlotte co, va ca 1770 to laurens co, sc.
again, my william harris, jr, per this 1768/ 1772, 150 acre grant he obtained there in laurens co, sc, is shown to have been married to my frances rodgers in 1768 but that they had no children in 1768.
so, if i subtract 20 years from 1768, that gives me 1748, which is a good appoximate date of when my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers would have been born and, again, this is also comparable to when his sister ann harris cunningham would have been born in 1747.
i know from a laurens co, sc deed dated 1796 that my william harris, sr/ frances goode died intestate and that my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers inherited this 300 acre grant of my william harris, sr/ frances goode as son and heir at law, which also means my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers was the oldest son of my william harris, sr/ frances goode.
here is the laurens co, sc deed re my william harris, sr and jr:
laurens co, sc deed book F, page 306, 1796, william harris, planter, to peter kelley for 45 pds sterling 200 acres where william harris, jr now lives, part of a 300 acre original grant to william harris, sr, conveyed to son and heir at law; other 100 acres to william rodgers on little river bordered by robert cooper; thomas blakely; gilbert mc nary; william rodgers. witnesses: robert mc clintock; john simpson. joseph downs, j.p. dower renunciation of wife franky/ frances harris. john hunter, judge laurens co, sc.
so, if my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers was the oldest son of my william harris, sr/ frances goode and he was born ca 1748, then, again, if i subtract 20 years from this, this gives me 1728.
however, the depostion, given by my mackerness goode, sr in 1750 in lunenburg co, va, says that my william harris/ frances goode had moved on to the plantation "finneywood" in 1745/ 1746, showing or indicating that they were married at this time, but that they had no family yet.
so, this tells me that my william harris, sr/ frances goode was probably born ca 1725/ 1727 and that they married ca 1745/ 1746 and probably in lunenburg co, va or this area.
mainly, it tells me, as i say, that my william harris,sr/ frances goode, was too young to have married frances goode sister of my mackerness goode, sr; william goode; etc but instead, as indicated, per these lunenburg co, va deeds; these depositions given by my mackerness goode, sr, as well as these grants in laurens co, sc, etc, that my frances goode was the daughter of my mackerness goode, sr and definitely not his sister.
by the way, i would think that my mackerness goode, sr's, etc, sister frances goode probably did marry but i do not know who she married? do you?
back to these laurens co, sc patents, in 1769, my mackerness goode, sr petitioned for 100 acres.
so, this tells me that he did not have a wife at this time and that my sarah hendrick goode or my sarah watkins goode was probably deceased and that he had no children under the age 16 and in fact, as i know, by this time, his children were probably all married with families of their own.
my mackerness goode, jr, son of my mackerness goode, sr, in 1767 petitioned for a grant for 500 acres. here again, he would have obtained 100 acres as headright and an addtional 50 acres for his wife. so, that leaves 350 acres that he would have gotten for children under the age of 16 or slaves he may have had, etc.
samuel goode, per the laurens co, sc deed which i cited earlier, obtained the 100 acre patent land of his father, my mackerness goode, sr also as son and heir at law.
so, again, my mackerness goode, sr died some time intestate before 1789 and, as shown, our samuel goode was his oldest son.
again, joseph davenport signed for the grant for my mackerness goode, sr and i know that our samuel goode was married to joseph davenport's daughter jermina davenport, per joseph davenport's 1788 newberry co, sc.
again, our mackerness goode, jr and samuel goode, per these laurens co, sc deeds i cited previously, sold this patent land obtained in laurens co, sc by my mackerness goode, sr and jr to richard shackleford.
at the time in 1789, this land was sold to richard shackleford, mackerness goode, jr was in edgefield co, sc.
actually, i am going to re-post these laurens co, sc deeds. i think i had presumed our samuel goode was also in edgefield co, sc but the laurens co, sc deed re him, as i have re-noted, does not say this.
so, i do not know where our samuel goode, son of our mackerness goode, sr was or when he died?? however, as i re-note below, a samuel goode did witness this 1789 laurens co, sc deed re our mackerness goode, jr to richard shackleford.
so, was this samuel goode the brother of our mackerness goode, jr or our mackerness goode, jr's son, samuel goode, who witnessed this laurens co, sc deed in 1789 re our mackerness goode, jr?
laurens co, sc deed book C, page 192, 1789, mackerness goode, gentleman, of edgefield co, sc to richard shackleford, pastor of the baptist church, for 500 pds, 500 acres on the beaverdam creek of little river in laurens co, sc, original grant 10/ 30/ 1767, bordered on cornelius cargill; david craddock; john box; william arthur. witnesses: samuel goode; joseph cox; francis brooks. silvanus walker, j.p.
laurens co, sc deed book C, page 193, 1789, samuel goode, gentleman, to richard shackelford, pastor of the baptist church, for 100 pds, 100 acres on beaverdam creek of little river, original grant 4/ 12/ 1771 to mackerness goode, sr, who died intestate and samuel goode his son and heir at law. witnesses: joseph cox; francis brooks; alexander stewart. silvanus walker, j.p.
again, this was our mackerness goode, jr, son of our mackerness goode, sr, who died ca 1793 edgefield co, sc and, as indicated, our mackerness goode, jr had several notes with patrick cunningham, who, again, was married to our ann harris cunningham, sister of my william harris, jr/ frances rodgers, children of my/ our william harris, sr/ frances goode, daughter of my mackerness goode, sr.
so, how old was our mackerness goode, jr when he died in 1793 in edgefield co, sc and when exactly were he and his brother, samuel goode, oldest son of my mackerness goode, sr, born???
Source: "Edgefield County, South Carolina, Wills 1787-1836," James E. and Vivian Wooley, Southern
Historical Press, Inc., Greenville, SC, page 23
Edgefield Will Book A, page 80
31 Aug 1793
I, Mackerness Goode, being weak in body but of sound mind & memory.
I give to my son John Goode three certain bonds from Patrick Cunningham for 100 pounds sterling each,
the first will be due the twenty second May 1795, the second one year after, the third the same date 1797.
I give unto my son Garland Goode one negro man named Jack & onewoman named Wyna and all the
furniture & stock of horses, cattle & hoggs that he now possesses.
I give unto my son Lewelling one negro man named Adam & one woman named Matt with all stock of
horses, cattle & hoggs and household furniture now in his possession.
I hereby confirm that I have already given to my son Samuel Goode and my dtr Francis Edwards.
Should my son John die before he receives the payment of said bonds,the same shall be equally divided
between my sons Garland & Lewelling and I hereby appoint my sons Garland and Lewwelling Goode as
executors.
Witnessed by John Hamilton, Lewis Mathews & Paul Holloway.
Signed Mackerness Goode
Proved in open court by the oath of Paul Holloway, March Term 1795 & read.
Source: Garland Goode estate records as found in Edgefield County Records, Apartment 38, package
1490, film 162257
The will was dated 10 Jul 1795.
this garland goode, per this package cited below and per the will of mackerness goode, jr above, was the son of our mackerness goode, jr, son of our mackerness goode, sr, who, along with our mackerness goode, sr and jr; my william harris, sr and jr had obtained these ca 1768/ 1770 grants in the same little river area of laurens co, sc.
Garland Goode mentioned his wife Elizabeth Goode, his brother Samuel Goode, and his children Susanna,
Philip, Mackerness, Pope and Lewelling Goode.
Source: Garland Goode estate records, Edgefield, SC Records, Apartment 38, package 1490, film 162257
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