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Re: Savoy Savoie Royal Line???
Posted by: Deanna LaLonde (ID *****2380) Date: February 01, 2003 at 07:40:06
In Reply to: Savoy Savoie Royal Line??? by Sue Ann Allen of 935

Sue Ann,

I am writing as a newcomer to the family of francois savioe and catherine lejeune.

I am native american mixed. My grandmother is half indian ..great grandfather full blood chippewa.
My grandmother marries a man who came through Ellis Island from London, England. We have quite the mix in our family genealogy. Now this is solid information found onthe Horace B. Durant Rolls (Census for indian people in the Michigan area mostly). Of course my grandfather is listed on the ship registry that took him across the great atlantic.

I have been given so much information lately. Some people are willing to help and willing to discuss posiblities and then go after those with documentation. I have found already in my 1 1/2 years of "looking" that there are some witha definite bias toward being related to Indian people and would rather be wrong that admit to the lineage. This is evident almost immediately as I read postings in my hopes to find accurate info. As soon as I see this, intolerance I realize it is impossible to get the truth and I look elsewhere. I have found indian lines in my family where others have insisted it was impossible...I have extremely reliable sources for it too.

I am writing to you but also to all people loooking for the family of Savoie/Lejeune.

I have to ask a rhetorical question...
DOes it bother some to think that indian blood may have intertwined with royal european blood? Is that the issue here? Is that what makes everyone wonder? or is there more to this?

I have a hard time believing this would be such a hot discussion if Francois had married let's Italian woman...or french woman.

I too would like the documentation. I also know that the history and census info was nearly always tainted against the native/aboriginal people..calling them merely...MIcMac woman or Metis Man as if they were not worthy of their own names...I know they had names....when they were married it wasn't even considered a marriage unless it was done in the church....names were withheld on land deeds people were disposed of their lands just because of it doesn't surprise me that still today people are still trying to refute indian people belonging to ...even families. In many indian cultures the history was oral and passes down and it would not be a big deal to them if they were or were not indian or if they marries a french person or an english person...they just lived made decisions and went about with their lives. If there are family stories they may slightly change but the meat of the stories will be there...and there would be no reason to start lies within one's own family.
SO just because it is not in a book written by an Italian or Frenchman doesn't mean it wasn't true...the family stories should be of big help....especially trying to go back 400+ years....
It was never an advantage to be I just don't believe our ancestors lied about it. Some do however outrightly deny it fully knowing the truth....because of fear or predjudice.

So my final question is why is it so hard to believe francios Savioe was connected to royalty( I will never believe that the europeans recorded eveything offense please). If he was illigitimate so what!... he was still the son of we need a proclaimation for it to mean anything?...and then it really doesn't change anyones does it.
and it is so obvious to me that Catherine Lejeune was it any bigger deal than if she was italian or spanish...or danish..etc...

I want to know the truth for sure but sometimes we don't have the documents so we go by our family stories that have been pasted down from generation to generation. It is sad to see the interjected predjudices against the indian people and I would ask all researchers to check their own predjudices before ruling out possibilites.
If anyone has found first sources or enough documentation on this family please forward...I could care less if there is some royal connection back in the days of Kings but if there was let's not deny it either. offense to anyone at all...please.

My great grandmother came to the US from Gaspe region in 1987 and married a full blood indian man here and then when he died married another man with mixed blood...this great grandmother is a gr....granddaughter of Francois Savoie and Catherine LeJeune..coming in from Loiselle, Mignier dit Lagace, Jacque and Julien Duguay, Chapados...Savoie,Prejean dit leBreton..
My grandmother lived at a time of extreme prdjudice and told me only that I had a "little" indian in me...not enough to mean anything....she was at least half and now I am finding at least 2 indian families in her linage...:Lejeune and others.
I hope that all the discusion will lead us all eventually to the right paths.



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