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Re: Robert Ryland Sale, born 1805 Virginia
Posted by: Daniel Weeks (ID *****2851) Date: November 13, 2010 at 15:00:31
In Reply to: Re: Robert Ryland Sale, born 1805 Virginia by Michael Sale of 1032

Re: "Where did the names of John Sale and Mary Ellen James come from?"

Mary Ellen James (born 12 Aug 1831), spouse of Robert Ryland Sale, was the mother of Lillie Lee Sale (born 18 Aug 1866). Mary Ellen James was my grandfather's grandmother, and so is listed in a family history my grandmother put together. I have that Mary Ellen James was the daughter of Garland James (b. 22 Dec 1789) and Sarah Peatross (b. 18 Aug 1790).

Also, Internet searches turn up these records, the first of which lists 'John Sale' as the parent of Robert Ryland Sale:


Name:         Robert Ryland Sale
Birth:        1805
Death:        year
Parents:        John Sale
Spouse:        Mary Ellen James

Garret Family Tree:

Name:         Robert Ryland Sale
Birth:        dd mm 1805 - Virginia
Death:        date - Hanover, Virginia
Parents:        John surname
Spouse:        Mary Ellen James

And someone else responded to my query as follows:
"I don't know if there is a connection, but I have a Robert Sale in the same time frame and place. He married Mary Ellen James b. 1831, d/o Rev. Garland James and Sarah Peatross. They resided in or near Ashland, in Hanover CO. They had two daughters, Lillie Lee and Roberta. I know nothing else re Robert."

And recently a friend from the Sale family sent me a family tree that has:

John Sale married Fanny Samuel 3-31-1801
1. Lewis Sale
2. Miles Clinton
3. Robert R. mar. Catharine Broaddus
4. Albert Gallatin mar. Mary Ann Pollard
5. Wade Hampton mar. Susan Miller
6. Moore Fauntleroy mar. Robinette Murray
7. Sallie mar. Wm. J. Murray
8. Louisa unmar.
9. Jane Columbia mar. Benj. Turner
10. Isabella unmar.
11. Esther mar. Cluverius

Then I think Robert Ryland Sale's wife Catherine died in 1862, and Robert R. remarried, late in life, to Mary Ellen James (as I have that their daughter, Lillie Lee Sale, was born 18 Aug 1866):

Guide to the Manuscript Collections of the Virginia Baptist Historical ...
By Historical Records Survey of Virginia

Obituary notice in the Religious Herald:
Catherine S. Sale, wife of Robert R. Sale, May 29, 1862

Robert R. Sale, October 14, 1869.

Hope that helps,
Dan Weeks

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