Re: CLEARY SCHOOL, LOCATION FOUND! Also, researching in RI info
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Re: CLEARY SCHOOL, Providence, RI late 1950's
thomas aldrich 2/01/05
Thanks for the info on Cleary School.You may be thinking of the Tyler School, which was a night high school that my father attended back in the late 1920's.My Dad had said that the school was somewhere in the South Providence area but he could no longer remember exactly where. With all the changes in that area such as the construction of I-95 in the late 1950's; more recently the growth of the medical community surrounding RI Hospital, Woman and Infants Hospital and Hasbro Children's Hospital in the area of South Providence adjacent to I-95; and progress in general, the building that was once Tyler School may no longer even exist.I haven't started that search yet, so I don't know at this point what the fate of the old Tyler School might be.
Back in the summer, I did learn the location of Cleary School in Providence from a reply to another post of mine on another site.We had an onslaught of virus attacks to our computer during Aug and into the fall so I still haven't caught up to all the things I need to do with respect to updating posts of mine at various genealogy sites including this post.
The address for the old Cleary School for anyone else interested is 75 John St. Providence, RI.The building is still used as a school. However, it is now the French American School.Student academic records no longer exist however, I am told St. John's Church does have the records for 1st Communions and Confirmations for students.
Anyone wishing to make a photographic record of the building will need a wide angle lens and will still, more than likely, end up with a mosaic style photo record. The street is a normal, narrow East Side of Providence street with houses/triple deckers opposite the school. The school is behind St. John's Church [still active] which is on the corner of Hope St. and John St.It is possible to get an angled photo of most of the building, depending upon your lens, from Hope St.
Additionally, I would recomend to anyone going to photo the school, that they do so on a weekend and preferably between college semesters.John St./St. John's Church are not to far from Brown U. and Rhode Island School of Design's campuses and just a couple of blocks around the corner from Wickenden St. with all it's shops and resturaunts so on the street parking can be hard find.As long as we are "on" Hope St., the RI Historical Society Library is also on Hope St. just a short way down from Brown U. at 121 Hope St.
As for St. Ann's, the folks in the Cemetery Office there are much nicer to work with than the staff at the main Cemeteries' Office in Providence but unfortunately for the family researcher, the Cemetery records at St. Ann's, as with the records in the main office in Providence, are by death date.There is no system in place to cross reference burial locations in the cemetery by name.
If you do not know the ancestor's death date or at least year of death, there is no way to find the grave other than to walk the cemetery sections and look at the headstones.If you know at least the year or range of years for the death, the office at St. Ann's can tell you which section[s] of the cemetery burials from that period are located in but then you must walk the sections and search the stones.Bear in mind that if you do not know the exact death date and the gravesite contains other earlier burials that you are unaware of for other family members , you may not necessarily be given the section # you need to search.For example, the earliest burial in my Dad's family plot is 1931. If I didn't know that and was looking for an uncle who died in 1955, I would be given the section of the cemetery where the 1955 burials are as the section to search when where I'd really need to be is in the 1931 section.
For me, I know where my family is in St. Ann's; my challenge is my husband's families that are there.Some ancestors we can locate having learned their death dates from records at the RI Archives; some my sister-in-law has found by walking the sections and others we are still looking for.They will have to wait til spring, wandering St. Ann's in 0 degree weather just isn't our "cup of tea".
Since I've mentioned the RI State Archives and the need for death date in locating someone in RI Catholic cemeteries, I will post the info for those surfing these posts andwho may be attempting to determine a death date for an ancestor who died in RI.Or RI birth or RI marriage, also.
The Archives can do a search for you if you are unable to actually go to the office and look yourself.The Archives have birth and marriage records for 1853-1903 and death records for 1853-1953.The RI Department of Health has records for birth and marriage beginning with 1904 to present and death records for 1954 to present.
The information for the Archives is:
Archives Division
337 Westminster Street Providence, RI 02903
Telephone: (401) 222-2353
Fax: (401) 222-3199
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.state.ri.us/archives/
Monday-Friday 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM
Please check with them for fees.I went in person so I only had to pay $0.15/copy for the things I got.
Parking is in an adjacent pay lot but is free for the first 3 hours [if I remember correctly] with a validation of your parking stub from the Archives.
RI Department of Health
Office of Vital Records
3 Capitol Hill
Room 101 Cannon Building
Providence, RI 02908-5097
(401) 222-2811: Recorded message containing detailed information on obtaining Birth, Marriage and Death records, and Adoption and Paternity information.
(401) 222-2812:(8:30 am-4:30 p.m. EST) Monday-Friday to speak with a Customer Service Representative.
Hours:
The Office is open to the public from 8:30 A.M. until 4:00 P.M. Monday through Friday
http://www.health.ri.gov/chic/vital/index.phphttp://www.health.ri.gov/chic/vital/index.php
Parking is on the street; some with meters and on other streets with signs "Two hour parking".There are also some pay to park lots and Providence Place Mall Garage a short hike away.
There are fees here $15.00 for each certified copy, which is what I wanted; $10 each additional copy of a certificate acquired at the same time.Genealogical copies are a lower priority and you will have a wait to get them.I don't, off hand, know the fees for those.
Thanks again for replying.I hope others will see this set of post/replies and be helped along in their research, too.