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possible death of John/Other children
Posted by: C (ID *****2516) Date: January 09, 2013 at 11:45:18
In Reply to: Re: possible line of phillip/john/emma by Marilyn Weakley of 10813

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Found a death record of John Wagner, son of Phillip and 'Gertrude', born Ger abt 1824 on that particular record, died 1900 Springfield, MA, buried RI. Immigration year listed as 1852.

From that I found a John Wagner living in the Almshouse in Springfield in 1900 census.

Also found census data and birth records of two more children of John and Emma - born in Lee, MA; Charles and Emma Maria.

In 1870 Phillip is living with his grandmother Sarah Booth and not with his parents. I could not find John and Emma in that census. Don't know where Charles and Emma Maria are either - but there are single individuals with those names living in the general area with other families. More than one Charles so I have no idea which on might be him. One family has an 'errand boy' named Charles Wagner of the correct age.

I wondered if possibly John served in the Civil War and was absent in that timeframe?
Did find a widowed John Wagner in the 1890 Newport RI Civil War Soldiers Census - but have no idea if it's the correct John Wagner. Birth date listed a Jan 1828 - no location.

None of this connects to Antoine.

Good Luck and Happy Hunting.

Massachusetts, Deaths

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11602-108615-30?cc=1463156&wc=12502914

John Wagner
Death 27 Sep 1900 Springfield, MA
residence: Springfield
street address:
Male White age: 76 Widowed
occupation: cabinet maker
Registration Date: 1900 (vol 505, p. 204, line no. 996)
Registration place: Springfield, MA
Date Recorded October 3, 1901
birthplace: Germany est birth : 1824
burial place: Pawtucket, R. I.
father: Philip birthplace: Germany
mother: Gertrude birthplace: Germany

United States Census, 1900 Almshouse,Springfield city Ward 8, Hampden, MA
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11883-109345-29?cc=1325221&wc=MMPN-PZV:n274101050
name: John Wagner
place: ED 1790 Springfield City Almshouse in Springfield city Ward 8, Hampden, MA
birth Jan 1828 Germany
father's birthplace: Germany
mother's birthplace: Germany
Male White Widowed
Immigration 1852 in this country 48 years AL (? Don’t know what AL stands for, some have NA for Naturalized citizen)


United States Census, 1860 Lee , Berkshire, MA

(Reference page: 170 family number: 1360)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZH8-FZ2

name: John Wagoner
residence: Lee, Berkshire, Massachusetts
age: 36 years est birth 1824 birthplace: Prussia
page: 170 family number: 1360

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZH8-FZL
name: Emma Wagoner
residence: Lee , Berkshire, Massachusetts
age: 26 years est birth 1834 birthplace: N.Y.
page: 170 family number: 1360

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZH8-FZ5

name: Philip L Wagoner
residence: Lee , Berkshire, Massachusetts
Male age: 2 years est birth 1858 birthplace: Mass
page: 170 family number: 1360

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZH8-FZP

name: Charles Wagoner
residence: Lee , Berkshire, Mass
Male age: 4 years est birth 1856 birthplace: Mass
gender: Male
page: 170 family number: 1360

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZH8-FZG
name: Emma M Wagoner
residence: Lee , Berkshire, Massachusetts
age: 6 years est birth 1854

page: 170 family number: 1360


United States Census, 1870 Pittsfield, Berkshire, MA
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11601-54915-50?cc=1438024&wc=1577351


Sarah N Booth F 57y New York
Phillip Wagner M 12y Massachusetts

Massachusetts, State Census, 1865 Pittsfield, Berkshire, MA
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12118-30610-87?cc=1410399&wc=1221475
John Wagner M 42y GER Carpenter
Emma Wagner F 31y NY
Charles Wagner M 9y MA
Emma Wagner F 11y MA
Philip Wagner M 6y MA
Terry Barden M 23y US Billiard Salon
Susan M Barden F 22y MA

Massachusetts, Births
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11766-102286-81?cc=1536925&wc=11695118
name: Charles Wagner
Birth date: 19 Mar 1856 Lee, Berkshire, MA
White Male
registration date: 1865
registration place: Lee, Berkshire, MA (p 46 no. 100)
father: John Wagner Cabinet Maker birthplace GER
mother: Emma birthplace St. of Conn. ? hard to read

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11932-81866-69?cc=1536925&wc=11695152

name: Emma Maria Wagner
titles & terms:
Birth 17 Apr 1854 Lee, Berkshire, MA (p 41 no. 25)
Female White
registration date: 1854
registration place: Lee, Berkshire, MA
father: John Wagner Cabinet Maker birthplace GER
mother: Emma B. birthplace Stillwater, NJ
:
United States, 1890 Census of Union Veterans and Widows of the Civil War
I have no idea if the man listed below is any relation whatsoever!
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8S9-2SQ
name: John W Wagner
widow:
Census 1890 Newport, Newport, RI
Private Co. F
Name of Regiment or Vessel: P. LA
Enlisted date October 1861
Discharge date June 01, 1865
Length of Service 3 yrs 8 months
nara publication title: Schedules Enumerating Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans of the Civil War,1890.




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