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Pioneer Vincent Renaud
Posted by: Janet Manseau (ID *****2030) Date: April 21, 2011 at 14:39:01
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Hi, I am posting the data and notes that I have for some of my pioneer ancestors, in hopes that they may be of interest to some of you that are doing research on your ancestors. This is another Renaud family. The family that Quebec Pioneer Vincent Renaud comes from.

Descendants of Jean Renaud
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide

Generation No. 1

       1. Jean1 Renaud was born about 1585 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 23 Nov 1652 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France. He married Madeleine Gaufreneau. She was born about 1585 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.

Notes for Jean Renaud:
He was a master "cordonnier" (cobbler/shoe-maker).
Child of Jean Renaud and Madeleine Gaufreneau is:
+       2       i.       Vincent2 Renaud, born 20 May 1609 in Ste. Marguerite, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died Aft. 05 Feb 1672 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.

Generation No. 2

       2. Vincent2 Renaud (Jean1) was born 20 May 1609 in Ste. Marguerite, La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died Aft. 05 Feb 1672 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France. He married Marie Martin 04 Oct 1631 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France (ct 24 Aug, Juppin), daughter of Gabriel Martin and Marie Breton. She was born 15 Mar 1615 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France.

Notes for Vincent Renaud:
In 1631 he was a "voiturier" (this I believe to be a cart or wagon maker). Vincent was in Québec City between 15 July 1652 and 2 April 1668. In the 1666 Québec City census his occupation was a "maitre cordonnier" (a master cobbler). Here he is listed with his wife, one child Gabriel and a domestic servant. Jette has four of their daughters as having died before the 1666 census. This could have been in France or Canada.
Then we find him back in Rochefort, France as a "marchand cabaretier" (a tavern-keeper). His last will and testament was drawn up on 5 Feb 1672 by notary Cherbonnier in La Rochelle. Vincent died after this will was drawn up.
His daughter-in-law, Marie Charier, is listed as one of the King's Daughters. On 13 November 1673, Marie appeared before the Prevote of Québec, answering to charges that she kicked and insulted cabaret owner Charles Marquis (husband of Fille du Roi Marie-Marguerite Beaugrand) after he insulted her. The outcome is unknown.
Children of Vincent Renaud and Marie Martin are:
       3       i.       Marie3 Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born 14 Nov 1632 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France. She married Pierre Blusson/Bellusson, (Jacques & M. Gabard) 08 Apr 1649 in Québec City, QC; born 09 May 1628 in Brouage, Charente Maritime, France.
+       4       ii.       Jeanne Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born 11 Oct 1642 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 25 Feb 1714 in Hôtel Dieu of Montréal, QC.
+       5       iii.       Barbe Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born 11 Sep 1644 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 21 Jan 1719 in Boucherville, Chambly, QC.
+       6       iv.       Jacques Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born about 1646 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France; died 23 Dec 1708 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC.
       7       v.       Gabriel Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born 11 Sep 1657 in Québec City, QC; died Aft. 05 Feb 1672 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France.
       8       vi.       Marie Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud, born 15 Jan 1659 in Québec City, QC; died 04 Feb 1659 in Québec City, QC.

Generation No. 3

       4. Jeanne3 Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud (Vincent2 Renaud, Jean1) was born 11 Oct 1642 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 25 Feb 1714 in Hôtel Dieu of Montréal, QC. She married Jacques Vaudry 14 Feb 1661 in Trois Rivières, St. Maurice, QC (ct 29 Jan, Ameau), son of Andrien Vaudry and Marthe Deschamps. He was born about 1632 in Notre Dame de Lamberville, Dieppe, Rouen, Normandie, France, and died Bet. 01 Nov 1687 - 08 Nov 1688 in Louiseville, QC.

Notes for Jeanne Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud:
She arrived as a pioneer with her parents. Her father was noted as being in Québec City on 15 July 1652, when she would have been 10 years old.

Notes for Jacques Vaudry:
He is listed in the 1666 Trois Rivières census as Charles a 30 year old habitant with his 25 year old wife and 2 children. Then in the Cap de Madeleine census of 1667 he was 40 (perhaps this is one of Jetté's errors) and 49 in the 1681 census. Take your pick because age did not concern them.
Children of Jeanne Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud and Jacques Vaudry are:
       9       i.       Pierre4 Vaudry, born about 1663 in Unknown, QC; died 09 Oct 1728 in Hôpital Général de Montréal, QC.

Notes for Pierre Vaudry:
He was "muet et innocent" (deaf and dumb). He entered the general hospital in Montréal on 6 Mar 1696.

       10       ii.       Marie Vaudry, born about 1665 in Unknown, QC; died 15 Oct 1720 in Montréal, QC. She married (1) Francois Senecal, (Barthelemi & Marie Aleausme) 09 Jan 1680 in Cap de la Madeleine, Champlain, QC; born about 1651 in Normandie, France; died Bef. 16 Nov 1692 in Gentilly, QC. She married (2) Claude Crepin/Crespin, (Claude & Jeanne Goupil) 16 Nov 1692 in Montréal, QC; born about 1651 in Angers, Anjou, France; died 20 May 1702 in Hôpital Général de Montréal, QC. She married (3) Sylvain-Jacques Miguet-dit-LaTrimouille 27 Nov 1706 in Montréal, QC; born about 1666 in Poitou, France; died 04 Aug 1721 in Montréal, QC.
       11       iii.       Francois Vaudry, born about 1667 in Unknown, QC; died 30 Apr 1739 in Pointe aux Trembles, Montréal, QC. He married Marie Brouillet-dit-Laviolette 03 Oct 1693 in Pointe aux Trembles, Montréal, QC; born 21 Oct 1677 in Chambly, QC; died 09 Dec 1740 in Pointe aux Trembles, Montréal, QC.
       12       iv.       Jacques Vaudry, born about 1670 in Unknown, QC; died 22 Jun 1743 in Lachenaie, QC. He married Marie-Francoise Joly, (Nicolas & M.Fra. Hunault) 13 Jan 1699 in Pointe aux Trembles, Montréal, QC; born 17 Mar 1683 in Rivière des Prairies, QC; died 16 Mar 1753 in Lachenaie, QC.

Notes for Jacques Vaudry:
He went to Detroit, Michigan as a bargeman on 30 May 1705.

       13       v.       Marguerite-Marie Vaudry, born about 1673 in Unknown, QC; died 15 Aug 1737 in Rivière des Prairies, QC. She married Antoine Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur 08 Nov 1688 in Montréal, QC (ct 7 Nov, Maugue); born 24 May 1668 in Montréal, QC; died 08 Sep 1739 in Rivière des Prairies, QC.

Notes for Antoine Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur:
This is a story about Antoine Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur's son in law John Carter changed to Jean Chartier.

John Carter alias Jean Chartier

Jean Chartier began life as John Carter on September 22, 1695 in Deerfield, Massachusetts. His parents, Samuel Carter and Mercy Brooks, daughter of William Brooks and Mary Burt, were married in Deerfield in December 1690. Samuel is generally believed to have been the son of Joshua Carter and and his wife Catherine, although there are some who believe he was "enticed away from London, England at 12 years of age and brought to Boston," though this story has been called "a very wild fiction," by James Savage in his Genealogical Dictionary of the first settlers of New England, Volume I (Boston 1860). Joshua Carter was killed along with Captain Lothrop in the victorious battle of the Indians at Bloody Brook, near Hadley, Massachusetts. In any case, Samuel's first wife, Mercy, died on January 22, 1701, when John was 6 years old, and Samuel remarried Hannah Weller less than six months later.
At that time, the English, with the help of the Iroquois Indians, had been conducting very brutal raids on small towns around Québec. In an attempt to dissuade further raids more than as retaliation, three secret raids were planned by the governor of Québec, to take place at Deerfield, Massachusetts, Albany New York and Salmon River outside of Boston. Hertel de Rouville of Montréal was in command of the raid to take place at Deerfield. The raid began on the night of February 28, 1704, and on February 29 around 2:30 A.M., Hertel de Rouville led the raid on Deerfield, consisting of 200 Québec militiamen along with 142 Québec Indians. The whole population of Deerfield at that time was approximately 500. The Québec troopers were trained to only kill in an emergency, but the Indians, with their ingrained war habits to kill women and children, could not be prevented despite orders to to the contrary. The raid involved the near-complete destruction of Deerfield. Captives were drawn out of their beds, generally half-naked, and were packed in to the Community Hall, where they were given snowshoes and all available garments. Altogether, the captives consisted of 111 people. There were also another 125 missing survivors, with 50 adults, so the casualties numbered about 250. Then, before sunrise, the entire troop with captives headed on a march to Montréal in the winter weather, with the first day's march of at least 25 miles. At the time the Québec troops with their captives departed Deerfield, the entire town was set on fire.
Among the captives, there were seven people from the Carter family. One brother of John Carter, Thomas Carter, age 5, was killed during the raid. At the end of the first day's march on February 29, a captive made an attempt to escape. De Rouville gave notice that anybody else attempting to escape would be shot on sight. The very next evening, a shot was fired at John Carter's stepmother, Hannah Weller Carter, and Marah Carter, age 3, became the victim instead. On March 2, Hannah Carter, age 7 months, who was the sole remaining child of Hannah Weller Carter, died of exposure to the cold weather. Then on March 5, near the icy side of Lake Champlain, Hannah Weller died. Of the original family of Samuel Carter, after a march of approximately 25 days, only four children reached Québec: Samuel Jr., John, Mercy and Ebenezer. John Carter and his brothers, Samuel Jr. and Ebenezer were taken in by the Reverend Fathers Jesuits at their mission on the Prairies River, which was located at Sault-au-Recollet, close to Fort Lorette. John probably served the Jesuits until 1710 and there is strong evidence that he did accept his new religion and nationality. It is likely that some time during this period of time, he decided to change his name to Jean Chartier. Mercy Carter was raised by by a girls' mission in Sault St. Louis which was managed by a religious congregation of women.
In the meantime, back in Deerfield, John's father, Samuel Carter, had been delayed while taking care of business at a distance too far for him to return to Deerfield on the same day. When he returned to Deerfield, he discovered that he had lost his entire family of eight people. It was somewhat of a miracle that, within the ruins of his village, his house had somehow been left standing and still exists today. Inside the house, he discovered the body of his 5-year-old son, Thomas Carter, on the stairway. He also discovered dead cattle, bullet marks, and general disorder. Surviving witnesses informed Samuel Carter of the events in Deerfield, and Samuel Carter began his search and efforts to repatriate his children.
In 1705, a Reverend Williams was one of the first to be set free. On his return, he told Samuel that Hannah had died and brought a full statement about all the others. From this time, Samuel made request after request to the local authorities to find a way to get his children back. Through diplomatic means, Governor Schuyller and Colonel Stoddard held a first meeting in Montréal in February 1707, where the Reverend and the Colonel were received by Governor Vaudreuil. They easily obtained release of Ebenezer Carter for a sum of 24 pounds. Ebenezer was very anxious to go home, but he was the only one. There was much celebration at the return of Ebenezer, but it was a joy mingled with sadness and regret over the three children who remained in captivity. Ebenezer, who was born in 1697, married Hannah St. John around 1720 in Norwalk Connecticut, and is said to have had a large family.
In 1705, Samuel Carter left Deerfield and went to New Cannan, Connecticut, a village in the nearby suburbs of Norwalk, where he lived to the end of his life. He married a third time to Lois Sention/St. John in 1706, and this union produced his last child, a daughter by the name of Lois.
Samuel did not give up trying to get the rest of his children back, and spent another seven years making requests to press his claim. In 1714, Reverend Williams went to Montréal to enter another plea. Samuel Carter, Jr. had just died in a drowning accident in the St. Lawrence River, and Mercy Carter, who had married an Indian from a local tribe, was now under the care of her husband. Reverend Williams returned to Samuel with the information that John, now known as Jean Chartier, was anxious to go back home. The governor ordered an open confrontation regarding this statement, whereupon Jean denied that he had made such a statement, adding that he was fully convinced of his new faith's truthfulness and that, despite his great respect for his father, he wished to establish himself in Montréal.
On October 29, 1718, Jean Chartier married Marie Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur, daughter of Antoine Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur and Marguerite Vaudry, daughter of Jacques Vaudry and Jeanne Renaud, who came from La Rochelle, France. The marriage took place at the house of Jacques Gaudry in Pointe-aux-Trembles. Jacques Gaudry was married to Jeanne (Jane) Gillory, who also originated from Deerfield, Massachusetts. A witness to the marriage, Francoise (Frances) French, wife of Jean Debluy-dit-Larose, was also born in Deerfield.
At the time of his marriage, Jean Chartier received a grant of land from the Reverend Seigniors of Montréal within the limits of Riviere-des-Prairies. Jean's land was later bought by Jean-Baptiste Chartier, son of Guillaume Chartier. His reason for selling the land was a new, larger grant of land at St-Antoine-on-the-Richelieu. The family moved there in 1728. He received another large grant of land in 1734, this time located at Contrecoeur.
Samuel Carter meanwhile no longer agreed with the aggressiveness against the Church of Rome as led by by his religious congregation and appeared to accept the choice made by Mercy and Jean. He stated that if they should wish to establish themselves in Connecticut, he would grant them a large portion of his land and money, with absolute freedom to practice their newfound faith and beliefs. There is evidence that at least once before his death, Samuel was visited by two of Mercy's sons and by two of Jean's sons before his death in 1730. Jean himself came to Norwalk and visited his brother, Ebenezer, on two occasions, the first time in 1736 and later in 1751.
Between 1719 and 1734, Jean Chartier and Marie Courtemanche-dit-Jolicoeur had nine children. Jean died on August 5, 1772 in St-Antoine-on-the-Richelieu at the age of 76.

       14       vi.       Marie-Jeanne Vaudry-ditte-Beaudry, born 20 Nov 1675 in Cap de la Madeleine, Champlain, QC; died 05 Feb 1710 in Montréal, QC. She married (1) Gabriel Perrin 12 Feb 1697 in Montréal, QC; born 17 Jan 1669 in Montréal, QC; died 23 Aug 1703 in Lachine, QC. She married (2) Joseph Chevaudier-dit-Lepine 07 Jun 1706 in Montréal, QC; born about 1678 in Unknown, QC; died Bef. 07 Jul 1744 in Unknown, QC.
       15       vii.       Etienne Vaudry, born 22 Jul 1683 in Trois Rivières, St. Maurice, QC; died 05 May 1685 in Trois Rivières, St. Maurice, QC.
       16       viii.       Etienne Vaudry, born 27 Oct 1685 in Trois Rivières, St. Maurice, QC.

Notes for Etienne Vaudry:
He arrived in Detroit, Michigan on 2 Aug 1717. He was listed as the son of Jacques Caudry and Jeanne Rebault.

       17       ix.       Joseph Vaudry, born 01 Nov 1687 in St. François du Lac, Yamaska, QC. He married Marie-Marguerite Lepage, (Jacques & Mad. David) about 1718 in Detroit, Mich., USA (Pays d'en Haut); born about 1684 in Neauvelle Angleterre (New England USA).

       5. Barbe3 Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud (Vincent2 Renaud, Jean1) was born 11 Sep 1644 in Ste. Marguerite de La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 21 Jan 1719 in Boucherville, Chambly, QC. She married (1) Jean Charpentier-dit-LaPaille 10 Jan 1661 in Québec City, QC. He was born about 1632 in Normandie, France, and died Bef. 18 Apr 1678 in Québec City, QC. She married (2) Nicolas Cochard, (Etienne & Perinne Tavenant) 18 Apr 1678 in Québec City, QC. He was born about 1644 in Lucon, Poitou, France, and died Bef. 02 Dec 1679 in Québec City, QC. She married (3) Mathurin Renaud-dit-St.Jean-Arnaud 02 Dec 1679 in Québec City, QC. He was born about 1648 in Poitou, France, and died 05 Dec 1708 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.
Child of Barbe Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud and Mathurin Renaud-dit-St.Jean-Arnaud is:
       18       i.       Barbie4 Renaud-dit-St.Jean-Arnaud, born about 1680 in Unknown, QC; died 14 Jul 1757 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC. She married Denis Courtois 21 Sep 1700 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC; born 23 Mar 1674 in Québec City, QC; died Bef. 11 Nov 1721 in Lauzon, QC.

       6. Jacques3 Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud (Vincent2 Renaud, Jean1) was born about 1646 in La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 23 Dec 1708 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC. He married (1) Marie Charier, King's Daughter 13 Oct 1665 in Québec City, QC, daughter of Etienne Charier and Marie Lissegais. She was born about 1639 in St. Jean Baptiste de Gerberoy, Beauvais, Picardy, France, and died 20 Dec 1694 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC. He married (2) Barbe Roteau, King's Daughter 24 Oct 1695 in Québec City, QC, daughter of Geoffroy Roteau and Catherine Carsilleu. She was born about 1653 in St. Martin, LeRoulle, Paris, Île de France, France, and died 25 Aug 1728 in L'Ancienne Lorette, QC.

Notes for Barbe Roteau, King's Daughter:
King's Daughter page 500
Barbe Roteau was born about 1653 in the parish of Saint-Martin in Le Roulle (arrondissement and archdiocese of Paris), Ile-de-France, the daughter of Geoffroy Roteau and Catherine Carsilleu. After her father’s death, she left for Canada in 1673 at about age 20, bringing with her goods worth an estimated 200 livres for her dowry.
On 11 September 1673, Barbe married Pierre Moisan in Québec City. She could not sign the marriage contract drawn up 09 September by notary Duquet, but her husband could. Pierre was a river pilot, sailor, fishing boat captain and bourgeois. He was born about 1648 in the parish of Saint-Rémi in Dieppe, Normandy, the son of Jacques Moisan and Françoise Fontaine, who were married 08 January 1641 in Saint-Rémi de Dieppe. Barbe and Pierre settled at Québec City, where daughter Marie-Madeleine was baptized 01 August and buried 05 October 1674. Jean was baptized 18 August 1675 at Québec City, followed by Marie-Charlotte (20 October 1677), Marie-Madeleine 09 September 1679) and Pierre (11 July 1682, Château-Richer). François was baptized at Québec City 23 January 1685, followed by Michel (04 October 1687), Louise-Barbe (18 October 1689), Genevieve (11 December 1691) and Etienne (09 December 1693). Sadly, 14-year-old Marie-Madeleine drowned 05 July 1693 at Château-Richer.
Pierre Moisan was buried at Québec City 07 December 1693. On 24 October 1695, Barbe married Jacques Renaud in Québec City. Neither spouse could sign the marriage contract drawn up 16 October by notary Duquet. Jacques was previously (1665) married to Fille du Roi Marie Charrier, with whom he had four children. Barbe and Jacques baptized daughter Marie-Angélique 04 February 1697 at Québec City.
Jacques Renaud died 23 December 1708 and was buried the same day at Québec City. This haste suggests that he was a victim of the mysterious epidemic that struck Québec that year, since victims of contagious diseases were buried without the usual 24-hour delay. Barbe Roteau was buried 25 August 1728 at L’Ancienne-Lorette.
Child of Jacques Renaud/Raynault/Arnaud and Marie Charier is:
       19       i.       Marie-Jeanne4 Renaud, born 28 Aug 1666 in Québec City, QC. She married Nicolas Chamard 21 Nov 1689 in Charlesbourg, QC; born 06 Sep 1667 in Québec City, QC.
My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name.

As for the pioneers, I also used Peter Gagné’s English books on the single girls that arrived in New France between 1634 & 1662 and his book on the single girls that are referred to as the King’s Daughters that arrived between 1663 & 1673. These girls were recruited and paid by the King to go to New France (Québec) to get married and colonize the area.

Most of my information for the 1800-1900s comes from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.

It is like I said in the beginning; use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science.

As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet

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