Rebuttal of Ms. Geer's reply
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Re: POLSGROVES of S. E. Missouri
Deborah (Debbi) Geer 8/03/00
9-07-00
This is a response to the message below, 61 of 69, which was a response to a message I posted previously.This person has read all my postings and has received several direct emails from me about her habit of posting erroneous messages aboutmy family, offering no documented support for any of her statements, true or false, and in spite of ample documentation for my statements of the original factual data as can be found all through these Polsgrove forums.What her problem is with dealing with reality I do not know.She prefers myth to fact, even when facts are available.My comments on her response will show what I mean.
[Re: POLSGROVES of S. E. Missouri
Posted by: Debbi Geer
Date: August 03, 2000 at 10:32:22
In Reply to: POLSGROVES of S. E. Missouri by john bristol
61 of 69
John:
I know there's been some discussion about William Harrison Polsgrove. I have two William Harrison Polsgrove's who were just a few years apart in age. Here's my information. Both would be first cousins. I don't believe that they could be the same individual as information about their children prove otherwise.
(NOTE:Here she is telling me that there are two W. Harrisons--The second W. Harrison here was William HENRY of Franklin and this is amply documented.)
Debbi Geer
1) William Harrison Polsgrove (1814 Pendleton Co KY -1863 OH) married Sarah Ryan (1818 KY - 1877) on 5 Nov 1834. Had 8 children: Elizabeth (b 1836), Albert S. (b abt 1839/1841), Cynthia (b 28 Sep 1840 - d 11 Aug 1885), John (b 1842 - d 1863 Battle of Vicksburg MS), George Montreville (b 1845), Mary (b abt 1847), William Henry (b 18 Feb 1852 - d 1 Jan 1911), and Sarah C (b 1855).
(NOTE:This is all true.)
I show that this William Harrison was the son of William Henry and Caty Miller Polsgrove.
(NOTE:Elsewhere on this forum, a descendant refutes that Harrison was Henry's son.See #35, next:
Re: POLSGROVES of S. E. Missouri
Posted by: John A.W.
Date: July 08, 2000 at 16:53:15
In Reply to: POLSGROVES of S. E. Missouri by john bristol
35of69
"I am descended from Wm. Harrison (born 1814), who is indeed not the son of Henry (1784-1842), whose tombstone is located in a dense woods lot northwest of Jordan, KY. My father, John B. Polsgrove of Bardwell, KY, took me once and showed me the tombstone. He says all the "old folks" told him that Henry was not a direct ancestor, but an uncle.
Jac Polsgrove, Tucson, AZ"
[NOTE:As anyone can see, John A. W. (Jac) Polsgrove, a direct descendant refutes the idea of Henry being Harrison's father, and he did this on July 8th, whereas Ms. Geer wrote her letter on Aug. 3rd, a month later.I know she has no respect for me, but what about theothers?]
[NOTE:I have a copy of an article published in a Fulton Co., KY, area book, written by another family of Polsgroves over there which agrees with "Jac" about Henry and Harrison being uncle and nephew.] )
(NOTE: re: Caty Miller -- I have addressed this matter of mis-matching Caty with Henry of Hickman instead of her rightful husband, Henry Paulsgrove/Palsgrove, of Martinsburg, Berkeley Co., WV and later of Warren Co, MO. , elsewhere on this forum providing ample and accurate documentation, but Ms. Geer, dismisses all of it..A soul-sister on World Connect has even gone so far as to move the place of the marriage away from Berkeley Co., WV, to Shelby Co., KY, to make her erroneous scheme SEEM more accurate---again in spite of all documentation to the contrary, even though the facts had earlier been placed on this genforum forum , i.e., #'s 16, 26 and 27.)
2) William Harrison Polsgrove (b abt 1822 KY - ?) married Mary Elizabeth LeCompt (b abt 1828 KY - ?) most probably in mid-1840's due to children's births. Had at least two children: Lucinda (b abt 1847) and Francis (b abt 1848). I show that this William Harrison was the son of Jacob and Nancy Coulson Polsgrove, Jacob being a brother of our William Henry Polsgrove.
(NOTES: 1.The problem is that this "Harrison" was "Henry";2. Just for the record, once more, there is absolutly no documentary evidence that Henry had a first name William and no evidence that he was ever called William by anyone except the "modern" set of myth-makers and tale-spinners.)
Some of this information came from various sources:
[she never gives a SPECIFIC source for anything]
Fulton Co KY History Book,
[if this was the one I used, then she rejected what it says]
some from LDS (which I know is not error-proof, but when it's microfilm of county and state records, I'm sure that this is a good reference then),
[I, JB, have yet to find a single LDS RECORD about our Polsgrove family.These are all reports by Tale-Spinners]
personal visits to cemeteries
[Henry's tombstone says Henry, not William Henry]
and conversations with various individuals through my years of research,
[The generation I talked to and grew up before were all dead by Ms. Geer's onset
and my living cousins have been faced with this GAP problem themselves. My personal link to the old-timers was my own mother, 1992-1994, who knew more about her Polsgrove family in her little finger than Ms. Geer "Has" in boxes of papers]
census records
[we all have stories to tell about good census records and bad census records]
and other records as found such as obits, etc.
[There is no printed obit that says W. H. of Franklin Co, was a Harrison, that Harrison was Henry's son, that Caty Miller was Henry's wife, that Henry had a first name William, or that supports any of these fairy tales.]
IN SUMMARY:
THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO RECORDS ANYWHERE THAT SUPPORT A SINGLE STATEMENT OF RELATIONSHIP, OR THE NAME HARRISON v. HENRY, FOR ANY STATEMENT MADE BY MS. GEER IN THIS MESSAGE.And everything she has said comes after having been anticipated and debunked by living DESCENDANTS which Ms. Geer is not.
John Bristol
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