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Michael: I noted in message #225 that N.J.Floyd was the source of the tribe name and he says that 'other historians of the period" referred to Cornstalk as that masterful Cayuga Chief. My point in all this is that some people are stating as fact that Opechancanough had -M- his neice,Cleopatre, the daughter of Powhaton and a younger sister of Pocahontas. I say, "baloney",; it didn't happen. They didn't do the year problem; they didn't see that Powhaton and the other chiefs treated their women with disdain,and a most 'telling fact'; where are the outcries from the christian ministers of the time to such an arangement. I haven't seen any evidence that Powhaton or Opechancanough were subject to this so-called matriarcal influence as far as the making of chiefs were concerned. Some references are saying that Opie -M- his neice, Cleo. Some say Cleo was his daughter. Some, that Nickitti was the daughter of Opie and others that she was the grand-daughter of Opie and others that she was the grand- daughter of Powhaton. N.J.Floyd says that there was a 17 year gap between the birth of Pocahontas and Cleo. If Pocahontas was born in or about 1595 as most published reports say,then Cleo was born about 1612. Add about 15 years for her to grow to woman-hood and you've got Opie at about 65 to 70 years old. Take your pick. ll of this is 'hash'. And I want to see the earliest writings on it. Capt.John Smith,in his History of Virginia, never mentioned it. And I can't find any other mention of such a thing either. No one has bothered to answer my query for a reference except to write in Opie's name on the internet. That brings up 'nothing'. My Floyd ancestry traces back to this 'Cleopatre'. And that's where things get sticky. It seems that someone has taken the meaning of the word 'Allied',as used by young Rolfe in his application of it to Opechancanough and thought he meant Opie had -M- Cleopatre. It only meant that they,Rolfe,Cleo and Opie were blood-kin. And that's my point. But a good referal to any early historian or genealgist could help clear this up. Have you got anything? Did Cleo -M- an old man as a husband? Help! Elton