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Pates In North Carolina, Tennessee And Kentucky
Posted by: Pate Albert (ID *****7536) Date: January 15, 2010 at 15:30:41
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Today I got from Debbie Carrington Smartt the below Email:

Hello Mr. Pate,
I was wondering if/how we are kin? My Great Aunt was Helen Ross Pate who has done extensive research on the Pates'.
Here is my line:
William Lundy Pate - Sara Farrar Pate
Son: James Wesley Pate
My Grandfather: James Wesley Pate Jr.
My Mother: Robbie Pate Carrington
Me: Debbie Carrington Smartt
If you knew my Aunt Helen then you know she has passed. She gave me copies of her books on her passing because she knew of my love of family history. I love your stories of the secret Pate family connections. I also live in Franklin, TN, which Pates' were instrumental in the settling of this town.
I hope to talk to you more!

To which I replied:

Dear Debbie-

Thank you for your kind note and enquiry into possible connection of our Pate lines. As you know, I am no genealogist, as was Mrs. Helen Ross Pate, but I have much respect for the folks who devote themselves to proof of the details of how all our families connect, as did your aunt.

My interest has been in the well-nigh incredible lives some of our ancestors lived, in which the women have been less than fairly credited with the great virtues in their many now-lost lines. I am a Patetown, North Carolina, Pate, with two Pate lines, made known to me by my grand father Daniel Floyd Pate.

My descent from James>Major Isham>Bryant Handley, Sr.>DeWitt Clinton>Henry Franklin>Daniel Floyd Pate, gave me Coree Indian descent from the marriage of Christians Ammons (daughter of Coree Indian Brice’s Ranger law officer Jesse Ammons) to Sheriff DeWitt Clinton Pate.

My descent from Major Thoroughgood Pate of Bertie Precinct( according to my grandfather, and his half-brother Byron Leslie Pate) is: Thoroughgood>Charles>Shadrach>Silas Daniel (who married Christian Ammons)>Sheriff DeWitt Clinton>Henry Franklin Pate, who was a Primitive Baptist preacher.

All the Pates of my Charles line, down to and including Henry Franklin Pate were Primitive Baptist preachers, which is confirmed by Billie Faye Pate Evans, former librarian of the University of North Carolina, at Pembroke, in Robeson County, which grew from the Indian Normal School at Pates.

Mrs. Evans very kindly got for me information on the Rev. Bishop Charles Pate from the Furman University library. I have depended much on the kindness and goodwill of others in the study I have done of Pates. It goes without saying that what I have discovered is little compared to what is yet to be revealed.

When my family was young, and my sons James and Alan were in grammar school, we lived in Nashville, Tennessee. There were Pate children in their school, but I know nothing about those Pates, except that one of them was a little girl named Avie Jane Pate. Avie Jane was an old Patetown girl’s given name.

Pates tended to move with “shakers and movers” in their movement westward. Their associates were capable people of all sorts. My grandfather said the old Pates did not suffer fools gladly. Their women were smart and beautiful. Judge Samuel Pate of Kentucky was the mentor of Abraham Lincoln.

Everything I ever knew about Pates is in papers and manuscripts in the Wilson Library at the University of North Carolina, at Chapel Hill. My current notes on Pates are based on my failing memory and the amazing variety of information on our ancestors on the Web, anciently connected to lands and people everywhere.

Albert F. Pate

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