Starting Sept. 30, 2014, Genealogy.com will be making a big change. GenForum message boards, Family Tree Maker homepages, and the most popular articles will be preserved in a read-only format, while several other features will no longer be available, including member subscriptions and the Shop.
 
Learn more


Chat | Daily Search | My GenForum | Community Standards | Terms of Service
Jump to Forum
Home: Surnames: Parr Family Genealogy Forum

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

Galicia (Austrian Poland) & Other Info
Posted by: Felix Unger Date: July 26, 2001 at 18:56:14
In Reply to: Parr & Link: Galacia (Austrian Poland) by Paul Ronald Parr of 2453

Paul:

Not sure how many sources you have found, but you are right about some basic facts - trying to get information from Eastern Europe after centuries of wars and changing regimes and boundaries can drive a person crazy.

In a nutshell, you really need to do a bit of studying of maps and historical summaries of the areas you are researching, since there have been so many changes of names, borders, and rulers.

- http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/Map_collection/ - University of Texas at Austin - extensive collection of MAPS OF THE WORLD showing all historical, ethnic, religious, political, military periods for MOST PARTS of the WORLD - excellent visual displays of CHANGES OF BOUNDARIES, BORDERS, and FRONTIERS resulting from wars and treaties, changing alliances, emigration and immigration of peoples (EXAMPLE: great visual explanation of constantly shifting borders, movements of people, and shifting ethnic patterns in EASTERN and CENTRAL EUROPE)

Feb 23, 2001: Polish News Magazine - the fastest growing print magazine and website - http://www.polishnews.com - targeting
over 10 million Polish-Americans and Canadians. Our website - http://www.polishnews.com - is getting over 250,000-300,000 visitors. You are invited to visit and think seriously of advertising and linking your banners to explore doing business directly with people of Polish extraction in the United States and Canada - and around the world !!! For more info contact:

V. Sarkar, Vice President,
Banner Advertising
425 East 51st Street
New York, NY 10022
Tel/Fax: 212-759-4568
Email:vsarkar@aol.com

"Polish Roots" by Rosemary A. Chorzempa - tells you what to write in English and in Polish. - Claudine at - claudine@281.com -

- http://www.rootsweb.com/~easeurgw/index.htm - EastEuropeGenWeb

- http://www.spacestar.com/users/hapander/burgen.html - or also -
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Austria/Burgenland - Burgenland Bunch is a great place for your research. Although a person once lived in Austria, they originated in Poland (Halic or Galacia, for example), Hungary, or elsewhere inside or outside the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

To obtain Polish records: - http://www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/Research.html -

Poland Border Surnames - http://www.maxpages.com/poland/ - ** excellent source of info on the following: Austrian Research | Balkan Research | Belarus Research | Book Stores Online | Carpatho Rusyn Research | Catholic Dioceses | Catholic Research | Cemeteries and Obits | Czech Republic Research | Dictionaries | Estonian Research | Family Reunions | German Research | Heraldry and Nobility | Hungarian Research | Jewish Research | Latvian Research | Learning to Research | Libraries | Lithuanian Research | Lutheran Research | Maps and Towns | Miscellaneous Information | Member Surnames | Moldovan Research | Moravian Research | Music | Name Meanings | One Name Studies | Orthodox Research | Passenger Lists | Polish Research | Professional Genealogists | Prussian Research | Russian Research | Search Engines | Slovak Research | Success Stories | Surname Search Online | Surname Mail Lists | Surname Websites | Telephone Directories | Ukrainian Research | Useful Addresses | Vital Records

- http://www.calle.com/world/poland/Pa.html - shows names of places in Poland.

- http://feefhs.org/ah/indexah.html - A major website for INFO on POLAND, HUNGARY, SLOVENIA, HALIC (GALICIA), CZECH REPUBLIC, SLOVAKIA, BUKOVINA, BANAT & TRANSYLVANIA Genealogy Listserver (for Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Croatia)

POLISH GENEALOGICAL & HERALDIC INFO - TOWARZYSTWO GENEALOGICZNO-HERALDYCZNE, Wodna 27, Palac Gorkow, 61-781, POZNAN, POLSKA (Poland)

- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~henkypnk/slovenia.html - a list or map of small towns or villages that existed in the area of Austria in about 1900-1915. Some citizenship papers may have Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, or (Czecho)Slovakia or Bohemia on them, but relatives will say they came from "Austria".

"Where is 'town x' located ?" - http://www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/faq.html - and alphabetical listing of cities, municipalities and towns in Poland - http://www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/towns.html -

An Index of German-Polish and Polish-German names of localities in Poland & Russia - http://www.atsnotes.com/other/gerpol.html -

In the Polish State Archives, there should be civil records for the years 1874-1898 and some old church records. You can find information WHERE to look for records you are interested in. You can ask people working in the state archives to search your ancestors (and you pay for it). Write to the archives at -
http://www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/Research.html - Many Catholic Church books were taken to Germany and now they are in the archives in Regensburg.

Where is Vuviccischuro in Poland/Germany ? The place you are looking for is Kwiecischewo (KWIECISZEWO in Polish). You can see Gembitz (GEBICE in Polish), in the county of MOGILNO, in the old German map of Posen (in German: Gembitz Landkreis Mogilno) -
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~feefhs/maps/gere/ge-posen.html - (Names: "Mogilno" and "Gebice" are close to the letter "N" in the big word "POSEN".) You can see MOGILNO in the new Polish map of Kujawsko-Pomorskie Province: - http://www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/kujaw.html - KWIECISZEWO is a village about 3 km to the north of GEBICE. GOZDANIN is a village situated about 4 km to the west of GEBICE. (GEBICE has a "comma" under the first E = "em".)

Polish Army Archives - http://www.polishroots.com -

Information on Poles who are WW II veterans of Polish forces under British command is found at:

Ministry of Defence
CS(RM)2c
Bourne Avenue,
Hayes, Middlesex,
England       UB3 1RF
Tel: (+44-20) 8573-3831, ext. 335
Fax: (+44-20) 8569-2751

*NOTE: Military requests to Hayes, Middlesex, England MAY require a processing fee of 25, with a prescribed application form. Just fax them, and they will tell you what you need to send them, and what you can expect in return. If you produce a death certificate, you MAY NOT have to pay them any money.

Two books were to be published late in 1998, listing ALL of Poland's census records.

- http://feefhs.org/ah/indexah.html - A major website for INFO on POLAND, HUNGARY, SLOVENIA, GALICIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, SLOVAKIA, BUKOVINA, BANAT Genealogy Listserver (for Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Croatia), TRANSYLVANIA

Census History: an International Statistical Convention was held in 1853 in Brussels. This was the impetus for the Austrian Empire to develop its first census in 1857, taken in the "Crownland of Galicia and Lodomeria" (official name) of Austria that became part of Poland after World War I (between 1918 and 1921).

Census Years for Galicia: A census of Austria was actually taken in the years of 1869, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910, etc. The first real census was held in 1857. At first glance, one might say they look just like the United States census and they do. View a sample page (253K) of the 1880 Austrian Census of Tarnobrzeg, Galicia. The printed text on the form is in Polish and Cyrillic. The handwriting text is in Polish [not in German]). All the cards (family relationship, language, civil status, first names) are in Polish too; only the family name is in German.

Two Types of Polish Censuses - One type of census is "Ksiega Stalej Ludnosci", which is a special census based on parish registers. Apparently this is the type of census conducted prior to 1857. The Polish names for a general census are "Spis Mieszkancow" or "Spis Ludnosci". This article is based on the general census in Poland (Spis Mieszkancow or Spis Ludnosci).

REGIONAL ARCHIVES AT KRAKOW have the following list of the surrounding area:

- Krakow city, census for these years, 1850, 1857, 1870, 1881, 1890, 1900 and 1910
- Podgorze area, 1857, 1870, 1881, 1890, 1900 and 1910
- Czarna Wies area, 1848
- Polwsie Zwierzynieckie area, 1848, 1853 and 1853
- Zwierzyniec area, 1848 and 1853.

There are also documents for the years 1857, 1870, 1881, 1890, 1900 and 1910.

Other Regional Archives: Czestochowa, Rzeszow, Kielce, and Przemysl. Other archives may and probably do have census records.
"Expedia Maps" show: SIELC NOWY in the region of Ostroleka, NOWOSIELEC in the region of Bialsk Podlaski and Tarnobrzeg, NOWOSIELCE (between Lancut and Przeworsk) in the region of Przemysl. For the town of Tarnobrzeg, there are records in Sandomierzc for the years 1880 and 1796. In the archives at Przemysl, there are records for Tarnobrzeg for the years of 1888 and 1786. For the town of Mielec, there are records in Rzeszow, for Lubartow, there are records in Lublin, for Nisko, the records are in Przemysl. In Radom you can find Radom records.

Information of value to Austrian and Galica Census research project can be sent via E-Mail or snail mail message to the FEEFHS webmaster. Be sure to include on the Subject line of your message "For Gayle: New Austrian Census Stuff" and send it to - feefhs@feefhs.org

Census Years for Galicia: A census of Austria-Hungary was actually taken in the years of 1869, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910, etc. The first real census was held in 1857. At first glance, one might say they look just like the United States census and they do. View a sample page (253K) of the 1880 Austrian Census of Tarnobrzeg, Galicia. The printed text on the form is in Polish and Cyrillic. The handwriting text is in Polish [not in German]). All the cards (family relationship, language, civil status, first names) are in Polish too; only the family name is in German.
_____________________________

Try a Polish Legion for help. In USA and Canada there are many branches of P.L. in major cities. There you will find many Poles who escaped from Siberia to Turkey and Palestine to join the British Army. Some went through the northern part of Europe to get to England also. Many had been sent to Russia by the Russians around 1918 or so. These Poles made history with the British 8th Army at Monte Casino in Italy taking it in only a week or so, after the allies spent 6 months trying to do it. Thousands of these free Polish soldiers are buried there.
______________________________________

And in SASKATCHEWAN:

Saskatchewan Archives Board
Regina Office
University of Regina
3303 Hillsdale St.
Regina, Sask., S4S 0A2
Telephone: (306) 787-4068

Archives, Saskatoon Office
University of Saskatchewan
Room 91, Murray Building
#3 Campus Drive
Saskatoon, Sask., S7N 5A4
Telephone: (306) 933-5832

Karen McKeith - kmckeith@yahoo.ca - wrote Date: October 27, 2000: I can attempt to help you look for things in the local library, for example newspaper clippings of obituaries, etc. All volunteer of course, since I am searching records myself also.

Saskatchewan Genealogy Tips -
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~canada/sask.htm - was located at - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4835/sask/tips.html - a new site as of August 1999 - find lots of information about researching your roots in Saskatchewan from church addresses/phone numbers in Saskatchewan, links to transcribed cemetery transcripts online, Funeral home addresses/phone numbers in Saskatchewan, and much more.

McTaggart, SK was a site for immigrants from Europe to work off passage on local farms, etc.

- http://www.saskgenealogy.com/ - Saskatchewan Genealogical Society, 2nd Floor, 1870 Lorne Street, P.O. Box 1894, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada S4P 3E1 - Tel: 1-306-780-9207 or Fax: 1-306-781-6021 - The Saskatchewan Genealogical Society welcomes you to our home on the Internet. We provide assistance to residents researching heritage around the world and we promote, encourage and foster the study of genealogical and original research in the Province of Saskatchewan.

Death records in Saskatchewan:

Vital Records Dept:
Province of Saskatchewan
Vital Statistics
1942 Hamilton Street,
Regina, Saskatchewan
CANADA       S4P 3V7
Tel: 306-787-3092
Tel: 1-800-548-1179 (might only be toll-free in SK or Canada).

Records are complete from 1920 and sporadic from 1878 to 1919. Before any search will be done there is a form which needs to be filled out and a fee sent in (CAN$25 for each name searched whether or not they find anything).


Followups:

Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message

http://genforum.genealogy.com/parr/messages/1259.html
Search this forum:

Search all of GenForum:

Proximity matching
Add this forum to My GenForum Agreement of Use
Link to GenForum
Add Forum
Home |  Help |  About Us |  Site Index |  Jobs |  PRIVACY |  Affiliate
© 2007 The Generations Network